jallman

I see you had nothing to say about actual numbers.

But go ahead and make remarks about the "skills" of others. It's just bringing a smile to my face to see you fall apart with such flare.

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ARealConservative

Yes I did. your debate skills are pathetic was in response to your lame straw man.

We gained ballot access in every state. We raised about 20 million in a quarter (more then every other republican). We received double digits in the Iowa caucus.

These are all things his supporters did and are all signs of us respecting the democratic process.

Only a complete *** hat would ignore that and focus on the actions of 50 people.

jallman

No, that was in response to your assertion that while 100,000 people are representative of over 200 million, 50 people are not representative of 100,000 when it is the EXACT SAME PERCENTAGE.

Getting on the ballot is great and all, but that still falls short of explaining why Paul should be getting all this news coverage if most people just don't care to see it and the news networks cater to the wishes of their viewers.

I mean really...I guess if we are following your logic, we should be inundated with air time from Alan Keyes, Duncan Hunter, Don Grundman, Diane Beal, Wayne Allyn Root, Brian Moore, or how about Frank Moore?

But you know, its easier to call someone an *** hat than it is to look at reality. But then again, you are a Paul supporter so what should I expect.

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stevenb

For the most part I'm in agreement with your argument... Up until the point where he does get included by whatever chance.. and then they change things or remove him from the poll after the fact.

There is no explanation for that.

And you know that what the major media outlets in this country run is what the majority of this country sees. They don't go out looking for anything else... hell with the help of the Media the current administration convinced the majority of the country that Saddam Hussein had ties to AlQaeda and he was a terrorist supporter / harborer.... Don't you think there is some responsibility in the News networks when it comes to the sway of information they give people about who's running for president? ... After all they do control pretty much all the information that the majority of Americans see.....

And I'm not lobbying for equal, but definitely something more than the curb job they did to Ron Paul.

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ARealConservative

It was a straw man.

100,000 people is the number donating to the campaign.

Nobody gives a rats *** how many voters there are nationwide. Based on various polls, about 5-8% of those (who even plan to vote at all) are currently planning on voting for Ron Paul.

So here cares about some ridiculous % you brought up. It was idiotic and had no place in the debate.

jallman

I just think that with the wealth of resources we have in getting information out there that to blame FOX News alone for Ron Paul's lack of medica coverage is a bit disingenuous. I mean, we have the blogosphere, internet news, print news, several news outlets. Add to that the fact that he supposedly raised all this money for his campaign and anyone can buy advertising time on television and space in print news. I guess I would probably blame an ill managed campaign before I started blaming the media as a whole and especially one network in particular.

And I still hold that the 50 or so gathered outside of FOX News that assaulted Sean Hannity probably did more to hurt Paul than to help. But let's keep that between you and me cuz I don't want ARealConservative throwing snowballs at me when I walk out of my office today.

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jallman

Says the drop of rain to the ocean. It's only ridiculous because it took all the air out of your sales, Sparky.

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stevenb

I'm not emphasizing blame on only Fox news, they were just one of many News Organizations that refused to put him up on anything even when he was getting good numbers. They were all the same when he actually did post good numbers.. they'd take down the poll, or remove Paul.

You're right about there being many more places to get information these days. But if you sit back and look at the majority of people in this country... you'll realize they believe damn near everything these news outlets spew. Which can be very dangerous when they all have motives, or other reasons for not reporting, or reporting stories / people in different lights.

I think the whole situation is kinda ****ed up.

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ARealConservative

no - it really was stupid and has no bearing on the debate.

how about if the democratic process shows your .0005% number was even close to relevant - I leave the forum, whereas if his support exceeds your lame figure by 1000, you leave?

What do you say sparky - how strongly do you feel about your ridiculous numbers?

If the stakes are too high, I would be agreeable to your title being changed to "Jallman Pride".

jallman

I'm not making bets with a hysteric who can't even look at reality clearly. Wow, this seems awful important to you, champs. And you are also taking the "democratic process" comment way further than I ever asserted and applying it to a small facet of the argument. But keep on. It's funny. Just do me a favor and look the other way when you speak; I'm kinda getting tired of having to wipe your mouth foam off myself.

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