You think you are superior .. ???

talloulou · 01-04-08, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Shery

Again You are not superiour ... and You aint nothing but some arrogant nations that will end anytime ... as those who end before you .. who thought that No one can defeat them ...

God will only support the Good people .. and you are not the good one ...

Even here .. same policies .. You treat me as You treat the world

But I will give you what you deserve because I m not the rest of this world ..

Soon you will know when nature disaster inshallah destroys more than you can imagine ... and let see how your superiority will protect you .. I promise
Inshallah

Time will tell Inshallah .. The plot of devil will remain weak .. it is matter of time Inshallah .

WTF is inshallah? God willing?

Anyways here's my two cents on this dribble:

bub · 01-04-08, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by talloulou

WTF is inshallah? God willing?

Anyways here's my two cents on this dribble:

shhhhh, stop mocking her religion!!!

jallman · 01-04-08, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by stevenb

Being in the IT field... such devices are normally not used for "pointed" or "guided" targets...

EFF: AT&T/NSA Class Action FAQ

AT&T Whistle-Blower Hits D.C. To Stop Telecom Spying Immunity | Threat Level from Wired.com

Synopsis:

AT&T installed a device that duplicated traffic on their network and stored it. Where did this happen? In sanfrancisco... which isn't even really a global hub.

The device isn't smart, it can't decipher what traffic to copy.. it copies it all.

Falling back to your logic, if AT&T and other telecom companies didn't do anything wrong.. why are they pushing for retroactive immunity?

Regardless...who has to sit there and listen to all of that recording? I also work in the IT field and I can assure you, it may record it all, but the searches of date/time/point of origination stamps are very precise and very finite. So now, again, I ask you...who sits and listens to ALL that traffic?

No one...they go and find the data that has the highest probablility of yielding information (based on already present suspicion) and they work from there. No one needs to worry about the dirty conversation you're having with your girlfriend being bothered with.

In fact, you are in much more jeopardy of having your job threatened by an employer's invasion of your privacy or embarassment because a jealous lover hired a PI to watch your every move than you are of having the government knocking on your door.

RightinNYC · 01-04-08, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Shery

Actually I figured that Even in this forums and in all forums moderated by americans or pro americans or israeli .. They always allow insulting islam and mocking it ... though they would consider a simple mockery as i did in the thread of tiger as a troll .. and They warning me to be banned

Iike I care captain .. Go ahead and banned me .. I already told all of you how you really are .. You maybe successed to fool your own people who has lack of education or you may conspire and plots with other nations that have the same aims as you .. which is destroy the doctrine of resistance in Middle East

You want to be the leaders and masters of the world .. while we follow and heil for you ...

As this austrailian man who wrote this

he has the right to assume that I have heard my Imam while I have no imam to listen to .. but his ignorance and arrogant made him dare to talk this way about God and prophet Mohamed and assume that I m following my imam

Here Mr australian and wheres the link that support your accusation ? or maybe your intellectual brain and your brilliant IQ is higher than give a proof that support what you say ???

Or maybe The american accusation for musharaf are higher than be supported by evidence .. but for shery in the DP forum .. she must has a link to support her own theory ..

What the heck ! you are the real comedy of the world and I know how you will end up God willing .. God willing your nature disasters will increase and remember that .. because it will happen Inshallah.

Also some1 as tash ... when she say on the canadian thread ..
Imagine if ..... islamic version ... She dont consider that personal attack on islam .. but if for example I replied back by telling her ...
Imagine yourself in Human version .. she will call me antisemite .... and start to act as a victim

Again You are not superiour ... and You aint nothing but some arrogant nations that will end anytime ... as those who end before you .. who thought that No one can defeat them ...

God will only support the Good people .. and you are not the good one ...

Even here .. same policies .. You treat me as You treat the world

But I will give you what you deserve because I m not the rest of this world ..

Soon you will know when nature disaster inshallah destroys more than you can imagine ... and let see how your superiority will protect you .. I promise
Inshallah .

Time will tell Inshallah .. The plot of devil will remain weak .. it is matter of time Inshallah .

Psh, I just hollered at Allah and he says you crazy and he ain't destroyin nothin.

OH SNAP

stevenb · 01-04-08, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by jallman

Regardless...who has to sit there and listen to all of the that recording? I also work in the IT field and I can assure you, it may record it all, but the searches of date/time/point of origination stamps are very precise and very finite. So now, again, I ask you...who sits and listens to ALL that traffic?

No one...they go and find the data that has the highest probablility of yielding information (based on already present suspicion) and they work from there. No one needs to worry about the dirty conversation you're having with your girlfriend being bothered with.

In fact, you are in much more jeopardy of having your job threatened by an employer's invasion of your privacy or embarassment because a jealous lover hired a PI to watch your every move than you are of having the government knocking on your door.

That is not the point at all.

The point is, they were not allowed to do that because of checks and balances in our government that prevented them from acquiring massive amounts of data on anyone without a court's approval of their reasoning.

They have reasonably subverted all those controls and done whatever they want, which is illegal and wrong.

You trying to justify it by saying that they can reasonably search within that data for whatever they need is bull****, it doesn't even matter. That data should have never been copied or gone over without a judge's consent.

Jon Holato » Government Official Uses Homeland Security Data To Stalk Ex-Girlfriend (Just one of the many reasons that there are checks and balances as to what data they should be able to get and what they shouldn't be able to get.)

There is absolutely no justification for using illegal wiretaps. We're built on freedoms guaranteed to us by our constitution and the bill of rights. If they don't like it they can change those with the majority of the states permission.

Otherwise they can pound sand.. because they are committing illegal acts against their people.

jallman · 01-04-08, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by stevenb

That is not the point at all.

The point is, they were not allowed to do that because of checks and balances in our government that prevented them from acquiring massive amounts of data on anyone without a court's approval of their reasoning.

I guess congress disagreed with you when they passed the Patriot Act.

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They have reasonably subverted all those controls and done whatever they want, which is illegal and wrong.

Then call your congressman.

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You trying to justify it by saying that they can reasonably search within that data for whatever they need is bull****, it doesn't even matter. That data should have never been copied or gone over without a judge's consent.

And you trying to trump it up into the government listening in on our conversations for the hell of it is bull****.

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Jon Holato » Government Official Uses Homeland Security Data To Stalk Ex-Girlfriend (Just one of the many reasons that there are checks and balances as to what data they should be able to get and what they shouldn't be able to get.)

That is not a civil issue. It is a criminal stalking issue and a corruption/misuse of government resources issue. Try again.

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There is absolutely no justification for using illegal wiretaps. We're built on freedoms guaranteed to us by our constitution and the bill of rights. If they don't like it they can change those with the majority of the states permission.

Or by passing the Patriot Act. Sorry you don't like that but that's too bad. And, thankfully, I am not alone in my reasoned assessment of how the government ACTUALLY operates rather than your hysterical fantasy of a Big Brother coming to get you through the phones.

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Otherwise they can pound sand.. because they are committing illegal acts against their people.

Oh yes yes yes. Of coourssse! It's such a bad thing to utilize the tools available to enforce the law and defend the country and its citizens.

stevenb · 01-04-08, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by jallman

I guess congress disagreed with you when they passed the Patriot Act.

To protect us right?

Then call your congressman.

And you trying to trump it up into the government listening in on our conversations for the hell of it is bull****.

They're not listening for the "hell of it"... but they're also no performing precision surveillance like you'd like everyone to believe.

That is not a civil issue. It is a criminal stalking issue and a corruption/misuse of government resources issue. Try again.

What's your point? He used data that was acquired bya nother institution to commit this act. Had the government actually been doing it's job that data wouldn't have existed.

Or by passing the Patriot Act. Sorry you don't like that but that's too bad. And, thankfully, I am not alone in my reasoned assessment of how the government ACTUALLY operates rather than your hysterical fantasy of a Big Brother coming to get you through the phones.

To protect us right? You're just as bad as the imperialist neocons who babble on about jihad and they're protecting us at all times... from this or that.

Oh yes yes yes. Of coourssse! It's such a bad thing to utilize the tools available to enforce the law and defend the country and its citizens.

It's not so bad to utilize the tools.. but the process of utilizing the tools needs to be observed, else what you're doing is illegal.

I don't know how to make it anymore plain and simple to you.

Lachean · 01-04-08, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by jallman

I am in favor of giving the authorities the tools they need to carry out their missions. I'm not admitting to any of your hyperbolized editorials of my statements.

Are you in favor of bypassing the FISA courts, and wiretapping WITHOUT warrant?

jallman · 01-04-08, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by stevenb

I don't know how to make it anymore plain and simple to you.

Well, we are just going to have to disagree here. I am not bothered at all by the wire-tapping issue because I understand that there are much bigger threats than having a government official happen to hear that I had cocktails with my coworkers at Ruby Skye Friday night while he is chasing down a criminal.

Hatuey · 01-04-08, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by RightinNYC

Psh, I just hollered at Allah and he says you crazy and he ain't destroyin nothin.

OH SNAP

Hahahaha I demand this be made Post Of the Month.

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