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Lean: Very Conservative Gender: ![]() | Mitt Romney a phony conservative Quote:
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Lean: Slightly Liberal Gender: ![]() | Re: Mitt Romney a phony conservative It has been obvious from the beginning that Romney is not an extreme social conservative. He speaks the rhetoric, but from my impressions of his answers during the debates, he is pandering to the evangelical base. I hate to break this to everyone but nobody is going to stop the flow of immigrants in from Mexico and South America. People assume too often that the President may just act alone to accomplish goals, but it takes Congress as well. I also do not believe any of the candidates want to stop illegal immigration. By letting it continue companies and affluent families are able to hire cheap labor while the taxpayers flip the bill for healthcare and education. As far as I can tell all of the candidates in both parties are about as centrist as I ever saw. Democrats that are pro-business and Republicans that are soft on social issues. I do not even think that Huckabee is as tough on social issues as he portrays and his answers to tough questions are very evasive. So to me it is all a toss-up on both sides, they appear very similar policy-wise. |
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Lean: Moderate Gender: ![]() | Re: Mitt Romney a phony conservative Anytime an extreme right "conservative" starts using the RINO word, it is just sour grapes on his part that the world isn't heading in the direction he wants. Ultra conservatives are just as dangerous, perhaps even more so, than extreme liberals. You can choose a conservative dictator but he had better be a god like human being who loves all and hates no one. Or you can have anarchy but you had better have the ability to protect your family and assets from those anarchists who have less than you. Romney is pandering, as he did when running for governor. You have to, to get votes. Every successful politician in modern history has had to do it. He was probably very conservative when running for governor, but had to pander to liberals to get elected. I thought, briefly, that McCain would refuse to go down that road, but lately he is sucking up to evangelicals. They are ALL phonies... |
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Lean: Slightly Liberal Gender: ![]() | Re: Mitt Romney a phony conservative What happened to the "statesmen" ideology of Jefferson? Men who did not seek office for profit, but to better the lives of their countrymen. I guess either all of those guys are left out or are simply too smart to run for the modern public office. |
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Lean: Liberal Gender: ![]() | Re: Mitt Romney a phony conservative I think we have a somewhat romanticized version of the Founding Fathers. Most of them pandered just as much as modern-day politicians do...they just pandered to different groups than modern-day politicians do. They didn't have to contend with a 24/7 media, so they mostly pandered to other influential individuals rather than "the people." |
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Lean: Moderate Gender: ![]() | Re: Mitt Romney a phony conservative I don't think profit is as big an issue as you think...most of these guys are already far wealthier than they need to be. I think that some of them have super large egos and want to be in the history books, but there are still a few who have the possibility of resurrecting Jefferonian ideals. |
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Lean: Slightly Liberal Gender: ![]() | Re: Mitt Romney a phony conservative Who do you think they are? I think perhaps Ron Paul, and maybe Biden but who knows. Paul is very idealistic and contitutionally oreinted in all of his arguments and Biden seems to think along the lines of Hamilton in his call for the division of Iraq into states. But the days of men being nominated by their peers, rather than nominating themselves I fear are gone. |
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Lean: Slightly Liberal Gender: ![]() | Re: Mitt Romney a phony conservative Yes, but Washington had to be the first President, as he was the icon of the country regardless of his many flaws. And yes elections were just as ruthless as today, but candidates behaved with an air of civility and sophistication that one would be hard pressed to find today. |
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Its true that McCain is doing this but his voting record shows that he believes in states rights in regards to gay marriage and abortion. Which are the only two things that matter to the Evangelicals. Im still a Republican despite I tried re-registering twice as an Independent. McCain seems to be the man that can unite the country but who knows. | |||
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