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Old 11-28-07, 10:53 AM   #1 (permalink)
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BUFORD, Ga. -- Gwinnett County police have arrested a Missouri man for driving near the Mall of Georgia with a truck that showed large, graphic photos of aborted fetuses.
Police arrested 44-year-old Robert Roethlisberger Jr. for disorderly conduct on Friday. He was released from jail Monday on $1,200 bond.
With disorderly conduct aside, which can be nearly anything that disturbs the public peace, and out of curiosity, are there any specific ordinances (non motion picture) against public, pictoral displays of violent graphic content?

Should there be?

Most establishments have no need for the displays and it is in their best interests to would avoid the negative such public relations.
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Old 11-28-07, 02:11 PM   #2 (permalink)
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With disorderly conduct aside, which can be nearly anything that disturbs the public peace, and out of curiosity, are there any specific ordinances (non motion picture) against public, pictoral displays of violent graphic content?

Should there be?

Most establishments have no need for the displays and it is in their best interests to would avoid the negative such public relations.
Good for the Gwinnett County police. Some of these pro-lifers have absolutely no respect for others and their rights to peacefully go about their lives. It always amazes me how the prolifers caterwaul about respecting the fetus but then they turn around and parade the body parts of aborted fetuses to generate emotional capital. To me, they are no better than the PETA freaks that go around throwing blood on people's fur.
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Old 11-28-07, 02:58 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I'm a pro-life guy, but there's no need for stuff like this out in public. It damages the image of the people that support the pro-life side of the debate.

Still trying to figure out what this has to do with Church & State issues though
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Old 11-28-07, 06:18 PM   #4 (permalink)
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The abortion debate is really something that I could care less about, but some of these radical Pro-Lifers need their *** whooped for some of these stunts they pull. I mean that literally too, like someone ought to just take a belt to them and wear them out.

There is a bunch here in KC that flies a Cessna around with a huge banner trailing behind it with a big picture of a very gory aborted fetus on it. More than once I have had to cover my kids eyes as the thing flew over head when we were at the park. You wonder how its even legal.

From the article it says the man is from Missouri, he could very well be the same son of a bitch that flies that banner around.
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Good for the Gwinnett County police. Some of these pro-lifers have absolutely no respect for others and their rights to peacefully go about their lives. It always amazes me how the prolifers caterwaul about respecting the fetus but then they turn around and parade the body parts of aborted fetuses to generate emotional capital. To me, they are no better than the PETA freaks that go around throwing blood on people's fur.
Gain emotional capital? Reality sucks, showing it does not.

Was gaining *emotional capital* during the Vietnam conflict by showing pictures of people getting burned to death with napalm, when shown in the right venue, ethically wrong or was it right? Should all of it been censored because it did not respect those victims enough by "parading" them, even though it was an attempt to help them by getting people to have compassoin for them?

I guess I see where you are coming from though. Showing or revealing a reality should be done with care as to not offend people. When major news outlets parade soldier's deaths in Iraq and then parade the new larger death toll it really bites me when they can't spare the extra few seconds to honorably tell us those servicemen's names out of respect. But we can't really do that for fetuses now can we.

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There is a bunch here in KC that flies a Cessna around with a huge banner trailing behind it with a big picture of a very gory aborted fetus on it. More than once I have had to cover my kids eyes as the thing flew over head when we were at the park. You wonder how its even legal.
Do you also wonder how it's legal for public network television to display images or media which I or others find offensive? If pictures of mangled fetuses should be outlawed in public because you find them offensive then why can't I outlaw sexually suggestive content on public television?

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I find it funny though... People getting offended at dismembered **USELESS TISSUE*** is so wrong yet other dismembered tissue no one could care less about. If I saw a banner of a dismembered kidney I'd be confused not offended or disgusted in any way. Could it be that the ***USELESS TISSUE***, in which there is nothing ethically wrong in dismembering, just looks a little too human for comfort and is thus gory?

"SORRY 13 year old daughter you are too innocent to look at those pictures of dismembered tissue but you are allowed to walk down to your local planned parenthood outlet and get that very operation done to yourself without my consent if you wanted to."
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Not taking a side here there used to be a guy holding horrible pictures of abortions gone wrong and just standing on the street side holding them up to view as you drove by. I always wanted to just stop and rip them from his hands. Whatever side you are on I can't see throwing gore and horror in the face of all that simply are going about the everyday business. There are many ways to state your case and get you point across.
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Gain emotional capital?
Yes, gaining emotional capital. They have to resort to the same over the top tactics that can only be termed "shock politics" because their stance is illiogical and no thinking person buys into it without being emotionally extorted and lied to.

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Reality sucks, showing it does not.
Actually it really sucks when you have small children that are being exposed to depictions of human bio-waste and they cannot understand what they are seeing.

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Was gaining *emotional capital* during the Vietnam conflict by showing pictures of people getting burned to death with napalm, when shown in the right venue, ethically wrong or was it right? Should all of it been censored because it did not respect those victims enough by "parading" them, even though it was an attempt to help them by getting people to have compassoin for them?
I can't really comment on that because I am not familiar with it. However, I can say that there is a proper venue for everything.

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I guess I see where you are coming from though. Showing or revealing a reality should be done with care as to not offend people. When major news outlets parade soldier's deaths in Iraq and then parade the new larger death toll it really bites me when they can't spare the extra few seconds to honorably tell us those servicemen's names out of respect. But we can't really do that for fetuses now can we.
Despite all that, you still won't see soldiers' body parts all over posters in a picket line or on the news. Hell, we don't even show the coffins last I checked. And as for your last question. when a fetus starts asserting its desires, then I will take into considerations the desires of the fetus.
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I personally don't find fetal porn palatable. However I don't think it should be censored and I do think it's a legitimate tool in the debate though I rarely opt to use it. You have many on the other side who really go all out to dehumanize the human in the womb. They rely on rhetoric which implies all abortions involve nothing more than clumps of cells. Well the pics don't look like clumps of cells to me. I know many say the pics are all doctored and not a true representation of an abortion. Yet they can't all be doctored and if the real story is more visually palatable I'd imagine pro-choicers would have their own pictures, which they never do.

These people who drive around on a bus with filth splashed all over it are disgusting. I wouldn't want my kids to see it. I'm not ready to explain "choice" to them yet. It's too heartbreaking. Luckily these types of people, those who would drive around in a bus with glued on posters of dead fetal remains are far and few between. It's bothersome and I don't want my kids to see it but I think they have a right to do it. There is no legal "don't be an a$$hole" law.

I do however think that all adults and even teens at some point should take an honest look at "choice." If you can't deal with what you're seeing then maybe you need to think on it a little more.
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Yes, gaining emotional capital. They have to resort to the same over the top tactics that can only be termed "shock politics" because their stance is illiogical and no thinking person buys into it without being emotionally extorted and lied to.
hmmm that actually hurts a bit coming from you. Are you implying I'm not a thinking person?
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