Pakistan's Turmoil Requires A Prudent U.S. Foreign Policy Response - Page 4

Voidwar · 11-11-07, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Iriemon

Yep. A foolishly consistent message that we are for democarcy over totalitarianism.

Are you ignorant of the fact that voting for an Islamocracy is itself doing away with democracy ?

Slainte · 11-11-07, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Voidwar

Are you ignorant of the fact that voting for an Islamocracy is itself doing away with democracy ?

Are you ignorant of the fact that not many people in Pakistan would vote for an "Islamocracy"?

Voidwar · 11-11-07, 03:27 PM

Lets just say I don't think your statement is a fact.

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In the most recent World Public Opinion poll of Pakistanis, it was found that 60 percent of Pakistanis believe that "Sharia should play a larger role in Pakistan law" than it does now. Per this recent World Public Opinion poll, only 26 percent say Sharia should play the same role (15 percent) or a smaller role (11 percent) and 15 percent do not answer.

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The Terror Free Tomorrow Pakistani poll also showed 46 percent of Pakistanis in that poll having a favorable view of Osama Bin Laden (and only 26 percent having an unfavorable view). Other results of the Terror Free Tomorrow Pakistan poll showed: (a) 74 percent opposing US pursuing Al Qaeda or Taliban in Pakistan, (b) 37 to 49 percent approving local Pakistani Jihadi groups, and (c) half of those responding approving of the Taliban.

Slainte · 11-11-07, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Voidwar

Lets just say I don't think your statement is a fact.

This can only be because you don't much about Pakistani politics.

How about you look at the rest fo the poll your article cites;

Who do you think would be the best person to lead Pakistan? Pervez Musharraf, Benazir Bhutto, Nawaz Sharif, Iftikhar Chaudhry, Shaukat Aziz, or someone else?
Pervez Musharraf......................................... .................................21%
Benazir Bhutto............................................ ...................................27
Nawaz Sharif............................................ ......................................21
Iftikar Chaudhry.......................................... .....................................3
Shaukat Aziz.............................................. ......................................2
Imran Khan.............................................. ........................................2
Other............................................. .................................................. .7
Refused/Don’t know.............................................. ........................18

Who is going to turn Pakistan into an "Islamocracy"

Voidwar · 11-11-07, 04:07 PM

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The Terror Free Tomorrow Pakistani poll also showed 46 percent of Pakistanis in that poll having a favorable view of Osama Bin Laden (and only 26 percent having an unfavorable view).

Did you read this part ? Why wasn't he one of the poll options ?

Voidwar · 11-11-07, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Slainte

This can only be because you don't much about Pakistani politics.

baseless and incorrect.
in the "relevant evidence game" , , ,

your obtuse, counter example question is nothing compared to the red text I provided

Slainte · 11-11-07, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Voidwar

Did you read this part ? Why wasn't he one of the poll options ?

Because he's not a Pakistani politician...

His popularity is much more down to the fact that he seems pro-muslim and anti-american to most Pakistanis.

Not very many actually want a Talibanesque state like he proposes though. This is endlessly demonstarted by how poorly Islamist parties do at the polls in Pakistan. If he or someone like him ran they wouldn't get more than 10% probably.

Slainte · 11-11-07, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Voidwar

baseless and incorrect.
in the "relevant evidence game" , , ,

your obtuse, counter example question is nothing compared to the red text I provided

Well firstly "Sharia" is a very broad term. If you did a poll in America asking if "Christian values" should play a larger role in American law what do you think the results would be.

As for the second part they probably approve of as they see it,the Taliban expelling the infidel, imperialist invader from their country. They don't approve of Taiban practices like Suicide bombings or strict Sharia law though.

Voidwar · 11-11-07, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Slainte

Not very many actually want a Talibanesque state

That is your opinion,

and since it is in direct conflict with this poll . . .

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In the most recent World Public Opinion poll of Pakistanis, it was found that 60 percent of Pakistanis believe that "Sharia should play a larger role in Pakistan law" than it does now.

I am quite simply going to discount it.

So uh, Yes, they do so.

Slainte · 11-11-07, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Voidwar

That is your opinion,

and since it is in direct conflict with this poll . . .

I am quite simply going to discount it.

So uh, Yes, they do so.

It's not in conflict with that poll at all. There are Taliban like parties in Pakistan, based in the Pashtun areas in the North West, they do very badly at national elections. I see you keep ignoring that

So uh, No, they do not.