1069

No, because fetuses aren't people, citizens, human beings, or members of society. Although pregnant women are, and in fact, I think both prenatal care and abortion should be government-funded, along with all other health services, including palliative care for the terminally ill, up to and including assisted suicide.
It's all part of basic health care.

Guest1

Feel free to move to Islamabad.

Guest1

Hard to argue against inconsistency.
You win.

1069

Kind of hard to argue against deliberate dishonesty and misrepresentation.
My sentence was actually as follows:

"Right-thinking people in today's civilized society agree that no one in our country should die for lack of basic necessities, even if we have to force these upon them because they are, say, mentally ill."

Are pregnant women "mentally ill"?
Well, no, generally speaking, they are not.
Therefore, no need to "force" health services of any sort, whether prenatal care or abortion, on them.

Are terminally ill patients who desire assisted suicide because pain management is no longer effective "mentally ill"?
Well, that's debatable. I don't think so.
So, we don't need to force further ineffective pain management efforts on them, nor do we need to force further life-prolonging efforts on them.

Are anorexic teenagers who are starving themselves to death "mentally ill"?
Well, probably so. Perhaps we should force food and medical treatment on them, since they are incompetent to decide for themselves that they "aren't hungry" when they weigh only 65 pounds.

Is a homeless diabetic drug addict whose toes are rotting off competent to decide whether he needs medical care? If he doesn't think he needs it, then he probably isn't competent to decide, and we should forcibly hospitalize and treat him before the gangrene spreads into his bloodstream and kills him.

Are you getting the picture now?

Hey, let me ask you this: who is the smartest person you know?

Really, Guest? You mean out of every single person you've ever met, I'm the very smartest one?

Teehee!
Wow, you're right, Guest!
Gee, it's fun quoting people out of context, isn't it?

Hey, do you mind if I put out cigarettes on your forehead?

Hey, you rock, Guest!
You and me are going to be the best of friends, I can already tell.

Guest1

So, I guess you are the decider of who is mentally ill, and who should have services forced upon them now.
Gee, it's nice to know I am in lousy hands.
You are are right about one thing though, we are about to become friends.
Can I have a drag off that cigarette before you put it out?

1069

Oh, goody gumdrops.

Guest1

Fortune will find you when you least expect it.

1069

P!ss off, you bloody twerp. You don't come on my forum and make obscure threatening noises at me.

Guest1

Didn't know you were Alan Howell.
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Sorry if being friendly is considered a threat to you.

donc

Boy what a coincidence that this opportunity came in just after the time this fake news’s conference was being outed.




Just three days after FEMA is outed for a staging a fake press conference, its Director of External Affairs John “Pat” Philbin lands an “amazing opportunity to head the communications shop at ODNI,” according to FEMA’s press secretary Aaron Walker (via email to PRNewser). The Washington Post confirmed the news through Vance Vines, Spokeswoman at ODNI.
Philbin and Walker were among the staffers asking questions at the press conference which was carried live by the cable networks. The the agency quickly apologized. More details as they come in


FEMA Director of External Affairs Exits Amidst PR Scandal; Lands at ODNI « PRNewser