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Old 10-21-07, 09:06 PM   #71
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Re: Congress apologizes for rendition and torture of innocent man

I say we put panties on Justone's head, too.
It's as easy to waterboard two as one, eh?
The more, the merrier.
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Old 10-21-07, 09:12 PM   #72
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Re: Congress apologizes for rendition and torture of innocent man

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I could really give a **** less if that Islamist mother ****er was tortured, it's none of my ****ing concern.
Yeah its not like the guy's a real human being or that the Bush Admin could make mistakes.
It appears that they do from time to time, but that just because we can't see things the way that God see them. You know like the parable about the rich man who got his wall fixed and the poor man whose cow died.



Seriously though, TOT, some of the things you post are genuine affronts to America and all that she stands for.
Some of your posts make the Founding Fathers weep in their graves.
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Old 10-21-07, 09:13 PM   #73
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Re: Congress apologizes for rendition and torture of innocent man

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The man was associating with known terrorists, he is an Islamist, so who gives a ****?
....Guilty by association? Not even in Bizarro World. Knowing somebody doesn't make you eligible for torture.
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Old 10-21-07, 10:08 PM   #74
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Hey, everyone... I have an idea!

Why don't we strip ToT, put his panties on his head, and waterboard him until he admits to being a stupid dumba$$.
Has he been associating with known terrorist and terrorist groups?
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Re: Congress apologizes for rendition and torture of innocent man

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Has he been associating with known terrorist and terrorist groups?
He's a known torture supporter, sounds good enough for me.
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Old 10-21-07, 10:11 PM   #76
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Re: Congress apologizes for rendition and torture of innocent man

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Has he been associating with known terrorist and terrorist groups?
He was posting on the same site as ptsdkid. A known member of stormfront. Stormfront is a KKK member hub. Domestic terrorism is one of the biggest concerns for the administration and Homeland Security. The KKK is a known perpetrator of domestic terrorism.

Guilty by association.
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Old 10-21-07, 10:16 PM   #77
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He was posting on the same site as ptsdkid. A known member of stormfront. Stormfront is a KKK member hub. Domestic terrorism is one of the biggest concerns for the administration and Homeland Security. The KKK is a known perpetrator of domestic terrorism.

Guilty by association.
No I asked has he associating with them, do you know of any meetings between the two and associations? What site are you talking about and who is ptsdkid a poster here? Did they meet somewhere and have a personal association?
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Re: Congress apologizes for rendition and torture of innocent man

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No man, the point as I see it is whether or not the mistake were a reasonable one made in the course of doing what's necessary for our safety or if it's a failure which needs to be addressed. I have a lot of faith in our intelligence gathering community, so if this guy really is innocent than I think it's more than likely the former.
We sent him to Syria to get tortured based on false information from the Mounties(Canada). I am not saying that this guy is the rule. I however have a problem with people who refuse to accept that a mistake was made and keep bringing up this guilty by association fallacy.
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Re: Congress apologizes for rendition and torture of innocent man

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Sorry but those associating with terrorists whether they are terrorists themselves should be considered as much of an enemy. There is simply no way that this guy would be associating with these people if he was a moderate, I have no empathy what so ever to Islamists THEY ARE THE ENEMY!
Ok, Let's try again.

I just have to know where you got that phrase "fellow traveler" from? Was it Rush, Hannity, Savage, etc?

Whose talking point is it?
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No it doesn't, I make no distinction between an Islamist who directly engages in terrorism and the Islamist who shares the very same ideology of those who do, because it is the ideology itself that is the problem and until you grasp that concept you will not be able to understand this enemy and is why you will continue to blame Islamist terrorism on things like U.S. foreign policy, the existence of Israel, or social conditions in the Middle East.
What is supposed to lead us to think that you are an expert and understand the enemy? Is it because you are more scared of them? Is it because you are more hysterical about them? Is it because you can't stop thinking about them? Where did you obtain this expertise? EIB Communications?
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