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Old 10-10-07, 10:54 AM   #241
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Re: Should the tax payer have to pay for ins for a child whose parents make $83K a ye

This program was developed in 1997 and seems to be part of Social Security. The states set up the guidelines, but they have to match money so it would seem they ought to be careful how many assets the people have before they let them enter. This is a huge problem with government programs, people hide their money. The IRS can filter through this sort of thing and disallow it, but all these pop-up programs may not have the facilities to sort through fraud so it goes unnoticed, or the clerks handling it don't care.

http://www.cms.hhs.gov/LowCostHealth....asp#TopOfPage
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Re: Should the tax payer have to pay for ins for a child whose parents make $83K a ye

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Originally Posted by RightinNYC
Here's a link to the school's webpage that shows tuition to be $20,000 a year ($40,000 for two kids, not one, my mistake)
Tuition rates does not equal what the Frost's paid.

From the schools financial assistance program:

"Park enrolls students based on their talents and capabilities. Families who are unable to meet the full cost of tuition may apply for the Financial Assistance Program, which supplements tuition payments. Financial assistance does not need to be repaid.

In 2007, 18% of Park students in grades 1-12 received over $2 million in financial assistance that ranged from $1,000 per year to full tuition. Tuition remission for children of our faculty brings that total to 25% of the student body."
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Here's a copy of the school newsletter which identifies both children as students:
You mean the one about the fundraiser?

"Members of the Park Community joined together last Saturday and raised over $4000 for Gemma ’16 and Graeme ’13 Frost, who were seriously injured in a car accident on Hillside Avenue in November."

Sounds like the school felt like they needed financial assistance.

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I say "probably worth $600,000" because a house down the street from them that was 1,000 sqft smaller just sold for $485,000. $600,000 is a very conservative estimate.
Maryland Department of Assessments and Taxation assess the Frost's home at $263,140 on 01/01/2006 and $223,986 on 07/01/2007 and you put it at $600,000. Quite a difference, even given that tax assessments are generally lower than market price. Give it another week and it could be a million...LOL.
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These are demonstrable facts. The tidbits in the ThinkProgress article are not.
The selling price and date of the Frost's home is right there on anonymous freeper 'icwhatudo''s link to the Maryland Department of Assessments and Taxation
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I say "probably worth $250,000" because he bought the building for $160,000 in 1999. With what happened in the RE market since then, $250,000 is a reasonable estimate.
Again the Maryland Department of Assessments and Taxation puts the commercial property, on which the primary structure was built in 1920, hardly a new, modern site at $160,500 in 2005 and again in 2007, yet you put it at $250,000.
'Owning' a property does not correlate to having complete equity. How much does the Frost's own and how much is mortgaged?
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Indeed they do. However, most people don't buy 200 thousand dollar buildings for businesses of 1.
If you need more space than a backyard will allow you, you do.
Besides, the selling price was $160,000. Why do you feel the need to constantly embellish, if your facts are correct?
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He claims to make only $45,000. Even if that's true, that's nearly twice the poverty line. Therefore, my statement of "this guy is not in poverty" is quite factual.
The S-CHIP program allows some states, on approval, certain percentages above the poverty line.
You are aware that the families pay premiums, depending on income, right?

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The Free Republic said she attended the Park Private school BEFORE the accident. The fact she attends a different private school now, doesn't change the fact that her and her brother attended the Park school before the accident.
I've seen evidence that they attended the school, not how the Frost's paid.
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And the fact that the government pays for her Health Insurance AND her expensive private school, doesnt really bolster the arguements supporting increased eligibility for Government health insurance.
If public schools can't accommodate an impaired child they must provide an alternative. It's actually cheaper to 'outsource' than to fully fund a facility that may go unused after the child moves on.

$45,000 a year for a family of 6 would come under my idea of children needing assistance for health care, YMMV
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