Reverend_Hellh0und

If this is Rush attacking soldiers then shame on the left for the far worse they have said.

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disneydude

Wrong. Now you are just as guilty as Limbaugh for trying to alter the transcript to meet your argument.

Look at the actual transcript or listen to the broadcast yourself. The comment about phony soldiers was not just after MacBeth's lies were reported.
It was just after the caller talking about how the media doesn't get statements from soldiers who support the war but ones that they pull out....
To which Rush responds - Phony Soldiers
CLEARLY inferring that soldiers that don't support the war are not worthy of being called true/real soldiers.

Spin it by altering the facts....but no matter how you spin it....it doesn't change the truth...even with your or Rush's altered transcripts.

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aquapub

Since he did no such thing, I'll take that as a compliment.

I have, and I've posted it.

Oh pardon me,

Rush's "phony soldiers" comment wasn't precisely one sentence before or after his mention of MacBeth, just within the same minute. What a world of difference. The point is, it is ridiculous to treat Rush's "phony soldiers" comment as unrelated to the PHONY SOLDIER he was talking about within 1 minute of that comment.



Liberal sheep like you are just peddling another invented scandal, period.

No thanks, the facts are enough to vindicate Limbaugh all by themselves.



My source provided here is Media Matters here, Sparky, and even their link proves what I have argued here. Way to think out that counterpoint.

Wrong again.

The implication was that fraudulent soldiers surface always at the most opportune media moments to trash the war, and get taken at their word without question, but otherwise never seem to exist when you are among military personnel.

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disneydude

Deserves multiple laughs.
You are obviously relying on the transcript that Rush altered to make it look like he referred to MacBeth right after the comment.

Even RUSH doesn't deny that the transcript was edited (although he gives a lamea$$ reason for doing it).
And yet....you display yourself as the ultimate apologist by denying that any editing was done (Like I said...the facts are right in front of your face and you still deny they are there).....This one take the cake.

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Billo_Really

Pumpkin Head is a dork!

A White House bitch!

A perfect example of a bad conservative!

Fat-boy has every right to tell all the lies he wants to tell.

Howard Stern calculated Fat-boy's head weigh's 14 pounds!

But if Senator's are wasting this time on my dime,
I'm gonna be pissed!

Chanda

The Bush Campaign lied when it claimed it was not connected to the SBVT:



The SBVT lied about everything:

Welcome to Swiftvets.eRiposte.Com!

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RightinNYC

OMG You mean someone who was associated with a conservative political group was "associates" with other Republicans!?

Holy crap alert the media, this is unprecedented.

Also, breaking news:



That's Hillary and Soros together. That MUST mean that moveon.org speaks for Hillary, right!??

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Chanda

The SBVT was nothing but a front organization for the Bush Campaign. It was organized and bankrolled by major Texas GOP donors with Bush/Rove ties. Merrie Spaeth, a Houston public relations executive, helped organize the group. Her late husband, Tex Lezar, ran for lieutenant governor on GWB's ticket in 1994. Spaeth was also involved in the smear campaign against McCain in 2000, and admitted advising the Bush Administration officials the previous year. She did the debate prep work for GHWB.

Karl Rove admitted in a Fox interview that major SBVT donor, Bob J. Perry, was his good friend. Their relationship began in 1986 when they worked together on the Bill Clements gubernatorial campaign in Texas. Rove managed the campaign, and Perry was an important fundraiser, helping Rove compile donor lists.

The Crow family of Dallas was another chief SBVT financier. The Crows are close friends and backers of the Bush family. Harlan Crow is a trustee of the GHWB Presidential Library Foundation.

Other Bush ties to SBVT: Welcome to Swiftvets.eRiposte.Com!

The SBVT smear campaign is consistent with Rove's modus operandi, using surrogate interest groups to attack an opponent.

"The attacks on John Kerry's war record fit like a mass production mold with Rove's political campaigning. While great armies probe an enemy's defenses for weaknesses, "Bush's Brain" has always tried to batter his opponents where they are strongest. Kerry's profile as a combat-tested officer ready to assume the role of commander in chief was a problem for the Bush campaign. So Rove went after it. "Look, I don't attack people on their weaknesses," he once told reporters in Texas during a campaign. "That usually doesn't get the job done. Voters already perceive weaknesses. You've got to go after the other guy's strengths. That's how you win.' "

http://archive.salon.com/news/featur...oat/index.html

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Taekman

You should take your own advice. Mediamatters didn't bother to mention that Rush's entire morning update the previous day was all about the phony soldier. I guess they left that fact out because it would have provided even more context to Rush's comment. What Mediamatters does is look for things that might sound bad, take them out of context, and that leads to the statement being blown way out of proportion. Then the media takes it and runs with it, not bothering to check up on the accuracy of the story. Anyone who listens to Rush's show knows what's up. Everybody else is pretty much ignorant and doesn't have a clue about the situation. As a result, you are all making fools of yourselves.

The Mark

Ok, and if I assume all of this is true, why should I care?

Republicans are using "Front groups" to help advance their adgenda?!?
OOOOOOOooooooo! The Horror!!

Democrats are using "Front groups" to help advance their adgenda?!?
OOOOOOOooooooo! The Horror!!

Who cares?

Both sides are using groups like the one you discribe, and seemingly if you look slightly under the surface, you will see the ties to the major political parties and/or their leaders.

It is perfectly reasonable for them to have groups that support them......support them.

HOWEVER!

If a group that they have aligned themselves with does something which is taken by the general public (rightly or wrongly) as offensive........then it is also perfectly reasonable to tie the two together and spread the blame around. After all, the political figure in question didn't have to tie him/her self to any particular group. That they chose to, reflects upon them.

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