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Old 09-13-07, 07:06 PM   #21
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You and your ilk throw around the word treason like cheap candy. Here's a little hint: Just because the other side has opinions that you don't like or they play the political game a bit differently doesn't mean that they are guilty of treason.
Being the tokyo Rose's of the Jihadist movement most certainly does constitute as treason, not to mention that the NYT's has repeatedly and unabashidly intentionally leaked classified information including operation ECHELON which got OBL to go off the cell phone grid not to mention the terrorist survellience program, so here we have the NYT's meeting both criteria for the Constitutional definition of treason IE they give them comfort through their propaganda and they give them aid by leaking our national security secrets. That's treason and there's nothing else it can be called. The NYT's is the paper WITH a record.
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Re: MoveOn.org Gets Discount Rate For ‘Betray Us’ Advocacy Ad

...I wonder....with all the lawyers in DC....why nobody has ever convicted any of the writers, editors, bods in the NYTs of treason? Only the most extremist of neo-cons are willing to suggest such a thing. It's like the idiots on the left who scream G.W. Bush is guilty of treason. You know who you are.
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Being the tokyo Rose's of the Jihadist movement most certainly does constitute as treason, not to mention that the NYT's has repeatedly and unabashidly intentionally leaked classified information including operation ECHELON which got OBL to go off the cell phone grid not to mention the terrorist survellience program, so here we have the NYT's meeting both criteria for the Constitutional definition of treason IE they give them comfort through their propaganda and they give them aid by leaking our national security secrets. That's treason and there's nothing else it can be called. The NYT's is the paper WITH a record.
Well, until they are convicted of treason or until our entire legal system is thrown out of the window and you get to be judge, jury and executioner it isn't treason no matter how many times you repeat it.
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Well, until they are convicted of treason
I don't care if they're convicted or not the facts speak for themselves and they are undeniable, leaking classified national security secrets which put our citizens lives in danger in conjunction with aiding the propaganda of our enemies is treason.
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...I wonder....with all the lawyers in DC....why nobody has ever convicted any of the writers, editors, bods in the NYTs of treason? Only the most extremist of neo-cons are willing to suggest such a thing.
Leaking classified information; such as, the existence of operation Echelon which got OBL to go off the grid isn't treason? What would you ****ing call it there sparky?
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Re: MoveOn.org Gets Discount Rate For ‘Betray Us’ Advocacy Ad

So much for the myth that the mainstream media is a money-driven corporate machine seeking to maximize profits at all times.



I guess the "myth" would be true if, from time to time, they didn't give spacial breaks and deals to communist front groups like moveon.org.
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I don't care if they're convicted or not the facts speak for themselves and they are undeniable, leaking classified national security secrets which put our citizens lives in danger in conjunction with aiding the propaganda of our enemies is treason.
Then it isn't treason. You can call it what you want until you are blue in the face, but it changes nothing. However, you should keep in mind for the future that it only is treason in your opinion and not in reality as they haven't been convicted of such.
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Then it isn't treason. You can call it what you want until you are blue in the face,
What would you call leaking classified intel which exposed operation Echelon and got OBL to go off the grid? Seriously what would you ****ing call it? I suspect you would call it aiding your ally but me as an American who is not a traitor and do not enjoy Americans getting killed by AQ call it treason.
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...I wonder....with all the lawyers in DC....why nobody has ever convicted any of the writers, editors, bods in the NYTs of treason? Only the most extremist of neo-cons are willing to suggest such a thing. It's like the idiots on the left who scream G.W. Bush is guilty of treason. You know who you are.
Except the New York Times actually has repeatedly committed treason. Like when they needlessly exposed the inner-workings of a classified anti-terrorism program.
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Well, until they are convicted of treason or until our entire legal system is thrown out of the window and you get to be judge, jury and executioner it isn't treason no matter how many times you repeat it.
Jane Fonda blatantly committed treason but was never prosecuted. Your point here is completely invalid. Conviction in a court of law is not what determines whether or not a crime has been committed, just what has been accepted by a jury. It is a particularly idiotic fallacy to assign such infallibility to our criminal justice system.
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