Panache

So according to you, your own source is lying. Since it IS ok to force sex if a couple has been dating a long time.

Given that you don't consider it a trustworthy source, why did you cite it?

Panache

And we should also teach them that rape is always a crime of violence.

Therefore as long as they have sex in a way that isn't violent, it is ok.

1069

Hell, Lost, if you still need convincing, google the phrase "Rape is sex" and see what sorts of 'reputable sources' you come up with.

1069

Here's a good one, as it addresses the "non-premeditated" defense, too:

Myth: Rape is sex.
Fact: Rape is experienced by the victims as an act of violence. It is a life-threatening experience. While sexual attraction may be influential, power, control and anger are the primary motives. Most rapists have access to a sexual partner. Gratification comes from gaining power and control and discharging anger. This gratification is only temporary, so the rapist seeks another victim.

Myth: Rape is a crime of passion.
Fact: Rape is an act of VIOLENCE, not passion. it is an attempt to hurt and humiliate, using sex as the weapon.

link

Thelost1

You have said this three times now.

I have not yet responded because my two-day old sister just came home. This is slightly exciting, as you can imagine.

I will, though.

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1069

That's a lie.
I said it only once.
But whatever; your credibility could hardly sink lower, so say whatever you like.

Thelost1

Now, will you please:

1) Stop insulting me
2) Stop getting so worked up every time someone disagrees with you.
3) Give me some Godd@mn time to respond.

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"The religion of one age is the literary entertainment of the next."
~Emerson

1069

I initially said for you to google the phrase "rape is not sex".
If you do so, you will find 14,000-plus sources.

Later, I suggested that you instead try googling the phrase "rape is sex" (which is the point you're trying to prove, after all), and see what you come up with.
At which point you started screeching nonsensically about your personal life (which I could care less about; I'm only here to debate), and falsely accusing me of repeating myself 'three times', when in fact I never repeated myself even once.

It's like, take a Xanax, dude.

Panache

Oh, this just keeps getting better.

So along with teaching young men that as long as they arn't violent, they can do whatever they want, we should also teach them that:

So as long as you make sure that the girls life is not in danger, it is not rape.

So as long as power control and anger are not your primary motives, it is not rape.

So if you don't have access to a willing sexual partner, you probably arn't a rapist.

If gratification comes from an orgasm, regardless of whether you have gained power, control, or discharged anger, it is not rape.

And last, but not least... even if it is life threatening to the girl, and the primary motives are power control and anger, and you have access to a willing partner, it still isn't rape as long as you don't seek another victim.

Brilliant. Absolutely brilliant. Way to make a positive difference.

Panache

Translation: If you are just looking to get laid, go ahead. Since your motivation is just to sexually gratify yourself using a womans body, it isn't rape. And since it isn't rape, and it involves sexual intercourse, it must be sex. And we all know that sex by definition is consensual, so the girl must have wanted it.