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all my best friends are women, I don't know how I could have a closer relationship with the gender then that. But they all show the same consistent and mystifying obsession with rape.

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1069

Yes, when I was your age, most of my "best friends" were gay and bi guys.
They're fun to party with. We had common interests.
But there was always a competitive edge to these relationships that was ultimately so antithetical to true affection that they never lasted very long.

A decade later, things are very different.
By 30, most everyone has come into their own- and come to terms with everyone else's- sexuality; things are much more chill. Less drama.

Thelost1

That's ridiculous. Sexual intercourse (which is what is referred to when people say "sex") can be done with or without someone's consent. It can be good, bad, or somewhere in between. It can be done between people of the same, or different genders. It can be done wearing a variety of different clothes, or nothing at all. it can be done for, love, lust, money, or something else entirely.

None of these variables could make sexual intercourse not "sex".

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"The religion of one age is the literary entertainment of the next."
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1069

Ice cream can be strawberry, vanilla, chocolate, banana-berry split, or a combination of all of the above.
It can be store-bought or homemade.
It can have chunks of fruit or candy in it.
It can be topped with sprinkles, or not.
It can be served in a dish or a cone. It can be regular or fat-free.
A very convincing ersatz version of it can even be made with soy or rice milk.
None of these variables change the fact that it's undeniably all ice cream.

But if you take chunks of meat, marinade them in oil and vinaigrette, put them on a skewer, and grill them over a hibachi, then that isn't ice cream.
Although it's edible, like ice cream, and although it might be tasty, like ice cream, it still isn't ice cream.
Not even if you serve it cold.

Thelost1

Well of course not, because Shish Kababs aren't made of Frozen Creme, which is the only real requirement of being "Ice Creme"

Sexual intercourse without consent is still sexual intercourse, and is still carried out in the same way (unlike the preperation of shish kababs and ice creme).

Anyways, I would like a link to a credible source that says that rape isn't sex (I mean even the results are the same, aside from those thatresult from doing anything at all with/without consent).

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Emphasis added.

"The religion of one age is the literary entertainment of the next."
~Emerson

Panache

Ok, here we go. From the definitive expert on the english language...

AskOxford: sex

See if you can find the word "consensual" in there.

1069

Just google the term "rape is not sex" (in quotation marks).
The results are far too numerous, and from sources far too diverse, for me to waste time posting here. So there's the social aspect.
As for statements to that effect from reputable psychiatric organizations such as the APA, I'll leave that to Cap'n, since it's his bag (unless he doesn't show up tonight, in which case I'll tackle it myself).
Although I'm not sure that reputable psychiatric sources are going to spell it out in such simplistic terms, because that would be sort of like trying to find the phrase "the sun is hot" in reputable astronomy texts or sources. Ie, you won't find it. You might, at best, find out how hot it is, but only if you shuffle through a bunch of other superfluous crap first.

I mean, here. Maybe this'll get you started: CSAP

Myth: Rape is sex.

Fact: Rape is not sex. It is a crime motivated by the need to control, humiliate, and harm. Rapists use sexual violence as a weapon.

From the R.A.P.E. Center:

Myth: RAPE is sex.
Reality: Rape is a crime motivated by a need to control, humiliate and harm. Rapists use sexual assault as a weapon to hurt and dominate others.


I'm not going to do this all day, though, and waste a bunch of bandwidth in the process.
You can do this research your own self, and it will be better for you if you do, than having me spoon-feed you.

1069

see edit. I've given you a source. Find the rest yourself, or find something to disprove my position and prove your own.
Otherwise, stop butting in with this maladroit twaddle.

Panache

Translation:

We should never tell young men that they shouldn't have sex with a girl if she says no.

Instead we should tell them that if they have sex with a girl, she must have wanted it. Otherwise it would have been impossible for them to have sex with her.

1069

Correct. There is no such thing as "sex" with an unwilling partner.
If "she says no", and he persists, that is not sex, it is rape.
We should teach boys not to rape.