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Old 09-08-07, 04:00 PM   #111
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Perhaps due to your lack of an ability to discern meaning from context she should have said that sometimes rape is about the sexual gratification of the rapist through vaginal intercourse, and that the violence and power aspects of rape which are the primary incentives to some rapists are completely ancilliary to many others.
Well, she could've said that, but she would've been wrong.
Rape isn't about "the sexual gratification of the rapist", through vaginal or any other type of intercourse.
It's about power, humiliation, coercion, force, and violence.
It is a violent assault.
Nothing more. Nothing less.
Nothing else.

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Old 09-08-07, 04:08 PM   #112
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I don't think i can be convinced that rape isnt somehow about sex. I think the whole "rape is about power" theory is some kind of weird pathology invented by gender studies women.
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Old 09-08-07, 04:11 PM   #113
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I don't think i can be convinced that rape is somehow about sex. I think the whole "rape is about power" theory is some kind of weird pathology invented by gender studies women.
If rape's not about sex or power, then what's it about? Square-dancing? Chimney-sweeping? Blueberry-macadamia nut ice cream?
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Old 09-08-07, 04:12 PM   #114
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Well, she could've said that, but she would've been wrong.
Rape isn't about "the sexual gratification of the rapist", through vaginal or any other type of intercourse.
It's about power, humilition, coercion, force, and violence.
It is a violent assault.
Nothing more. Nothing less.
Nothing else.
So if all I want is to be sexually gratified, and I don't much care one way or the other about power, humiliation, coercion, force, or violence, and I ask a girl to have sex with me and she says no...

If I have sex with her (sorry, I mean to say "If I engange in an activity which is in every way identical to sex aside from being consensual) anyways while she is asleep, it isn't rape according to you?
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Old 09-08-07, 04:14 PM   #115
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If rape's not about sex or power, then what's it about? Square-dancing? Chimney-sweeping? Blueberry-macadamia nut ice cream?
sorry, typo. i meant to say isn't somehow about sex.

anyway, I think most rapists are just drunk and don't care if there date is into it or not. that's not about power.
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Old 09-08-07, 04:19 PM   #116
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sorry, typo.
Gosh, your opinion adds much heft and credibility to the "rape victims are whorish sluts" cause célèbre du jour.

With you on board, how can anyone fail to take Tallou (a known misogynist) and Panache (an irrelevant pissant) seriously?

I'll bet the entire psychiatric community will have to change their position on rape now.
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Re: 3-year-old raped by uncle, officials say

I'm not commenting on the victims I'm commenting on the rapists.

I think in most instances of rape the victim is on some kind of social outing with the rapist, the rapist gets out of their senses and takes liberties.

That's not blaming the victim or calling them a whore.

But it's also not saying the rapist had some kind of insane premeditated power trip.

And how do you define rape? Have you never had sex you weren't totally completely 100% into?

(god i have a lot of typos today...foul, foul Saturdays)
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Gosh, your opinion adds much heft and credibility to the "rape victims are whorish sluts" cause célèbre du jour.
Seriously, how do you jump from "Some guys rape girls just beacuse they are horny losers looking for sex." To "Rape victims are whorish sluts."?

Were you also one of those neo-cons who made a similar jump from "We should really look at the middle eastern policy that preceded the 9/11 attacks" to " I hate America."?

If I said that most cases of identity theft are about money rather than about violence, does that mean I am saying that vitims of identity theft are "whorish sluts?" Does it translate in your mind to mean that I think identity thieves are "cupcakes."

What if I had the gall to say that it would be a good idea to select a password that uses at least 8 alphanumeric symbols in both lower and upper case in order to give yourself some more protection against identity theft? Then I am "blaming the victim" right?

Give me a break.
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Old 09-08-07, 04:42 PM   #119
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Re: 3-year-old raped by uncle, officials say

I love women to death, but I think they're just irrationally reactionary when it comes to rape and sexual abuse.
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Old 09-08-07, 04:48 PM   #120
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I love women to death, but I think they're just irrationally reactionary when it comes to rape and sexual abuse.
And why does your tone suggest that you do not care about women?

Seriously; I've known a lot of 21-year-old gay guys.
They generally exhibit myriad conflicting and convoluted feelings about "women" (as a demographic, not specific women in particular).
"Loving them to death", however, does not usually rank high on the list.
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