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NYC built and funded a Madrassa with tax payer dollars?

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Khayembii Communique

Intifada is just "rebellion" in Arabic; it has nothing to do with Islam.

And she wasn't supporting an actual intifada; she was using it in the form of a "cultural intifada"; sort of like how punk-rock was a "cultural rebellion".

You, of course, support the American intifada against the British, correct?

RightinNYC

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Trajan Octavian Titus

Whatever, she was endorsing an Intifada in NYC and obviously using the term intifada has an Islamist undertone, next you'll be telling me how Jihad just means struggle.

Ya sure thing.

Are you comparing these t-shirts to the Declaration of Independence? Are you suggesting that because of the American revolution that it is o.k. to incite a rebellion against the Democratically elected government of the United States?

Trajan Octavian Titus

Technically it's an "Arabic Language School" but if you look into who is behind it, including this woman who was endorsing an "NYC Intifada" it is clear that the "Language School" is just a smokescreen.

bhkad

I think this is the more widely accepted understanding of the word. And she damn well knew it. But in a display of Taqiyya she demonstrates how the Muslim tactic can work to deceive the unwary non-Muslims.

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Khayembii Communique

Actually has more of an anti-imperialist undertone than an islamist one, but that all depends on how you view the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. The point is that it doesn't matter what you think the word relates to; it's a word and can be used however the user wants to.

After all, "revolution" has a violent undertone but doesn't necessarily imply violence. And I don't think I've ever heard you complain about someone using the word in a non-violent manner.

If you saw the shirts you would understand that.

No?

I'm saying that the American rebellion against the British was an intifada.

Nobody suggested revolting against the government.

Yes, it certainly is. And, again, it all depends on how you view that conflict (NOTE: Let's not get into an argument on the Palestinian intifada, because that's not what this thread is about).

Trajan Octavian Titus

If she called for a revolution in NYC I would be saying the same thing, sorry she called for an intifada in NYC and no amount of spin is going to change that fact you know as well as I what an intifada is, it was an incitement to rebellion against the U.S. government.

"Intifada in NYC" end of story the people wearing the shirts and those endorsing its message need to be put under surveillance immediately.

So you endorse a rebellion in NYC?

You yourself stated that intifada means rebellion.

This thread is about A) a Madrassa headed by Muslim radicals being funded by tax payer dollars, and B) Muslims calling for an intifada in NYC.

Khayembii Communique

Didn't the shirts just say "Intifada USA"? That could mean a number of things; it could mean a revolt against "American culture" (which makes sense because these were shirts). It could also mean that she was actually calling for a revolution against the US as you claim, but many people have done that. Go listen to some punk.

I don't see why you're getting so flustered about some shirts.

Again, she stated she wasn't using it literally but figuratively as a rebellion against "pop culture" as thousands before her have done.

How'd you get this out of that quote?

And it depends on what you mean by "rebellion". If you mean it figuratively as she did, then yes, of course I do. If you mean it literally, then certainly not.

Yes, I did. It is a word that can be used in many ways and doesn't have to imply a literally violent uprising. Such as how rock n' roll was a "revolution in music". Or how punk rock was a "rebellion against society". Or what about rebellious teenagers? They aren't literally going out and revolting against the government.