NYC Principal at Center of 'Intifada' T-Shirt Controversy Resigns - Page 2

talloulou · 08-24-07, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Trajan Octavian Titus

Remember the NYC Madrassa built and funded by tax payer dollars? Well they appointed as the principle a woman who supports an intifada in NYC, she has since resigned but this just proves EXACTLY what we've been saying all along.

NYC built and funded a Madrassa with tax payer dollars?

Sergeant Stinger1 · 08-24-07, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Trajan Octavian Titus

Huh? No I am saying that A) taxpayers should not be funding Madrassas, and B) if they do they should not be appointing people who support an intifada in NYC, the fact that she's a woman never entered into the equation.

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Khayembii Communique · 08-24-07, 12:34 PM

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Ya she supports an Islamic rebellion in NYC you think that someone calling for an intifada in NYC should be a Principle? Sorry but the U.S. taxpayer should not be funding Madrassas led by radicals Muslims.

Intifada is just "rebellion" in Arabic; it has nothing to do with Islam.

And she wasn't supporting an actual intifada; she was using it in the form of a "cultural intifada"; sort of like how punk-rock was a "cultural rebellion".

You, of course, support the American intifada against the British, correct?

RightinNYC · 08-24-07, 12:34 PM

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Trajan Octavian Titus · 08-24-07, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique

Intifada is just "rebellion" in Arabic; it has nothing to do with Islam.

Whatever, she was endorsing an Intifada in NYC and obviously using the term intifada has an Islamist undertone, next you'll be telling me how Jihad just means struggle.

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And she wasn't supporting an actual intifada; she was using it in the form of a "cultural intifada"; sort of like how punk-rock was a "cultural rebellion".

Ya sure thing.

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You, of course, support the American intifada against the British, correct?

Are you comparing these t-shirts to the Declaration of Independence? Are you suggesting that because of the American revolution that it is o.k. to incite a rebellion against the Democratically elected government of the United States?

Trajan Octavian Titus · 08-24-07, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by talloulou

NYC built and funded a Madrassa with tax payer dollars?

Technically it's an "Arabic Language School" but if you look into who is behind it, including this woman who was endorsing an "NYC Intifada" it is clear that the "Language School" is just a smokescreen.

bhkad · 08-24-07, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Trajan Octavian Titus

Remember the NYC Madrassa built and funded by tax payer dollars? Well they appointed as the principle a woman who supports an intifada in NYC, she has since resigned but this just proves EXACTLY what we've been saying all along.

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Intifada: an uprising by Palestinian Arabs (in both the Gaza Strip and the West Bank) against Israel in the late 1980s and again in 2000; "the first intifada ended when Israel granted limited autonomy to the Palestine National Authority in 1993"
wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn

I think this is the more widely accepted understanding of the word. And she damn well knew it. But in a display of Taqiyya she demonstrates how the Muslim tactic can work to deceive the unwary non-Muslims.

Khayembii Communique · 08-24-07, 02:11 PM

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Whatever, she was endorsing an Intifada in NYC and obviously using the term intifada has an Islamist undertone, next you'll be telling me how Jihad just means struggle.

Actually has more of an anti-imperialist undertone than an islamist one, but that all depends on how you view the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. The point is that it doesn't matter what you think the word relates to; it's a word and can be used however the user wants to.

After all, "revolution" has a violent undertone but doesn't necessarily imply violence. And I don't think I've ever heard you complain about someone using the word in a non-violent manner.

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Ya sure thing.

If you saw the shirts you would understand that.

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Are you comparing these t-shirts to the Declaration of Independence?

No?

I'm saying that the American rebellion against the British was an intifada.

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Are you suggesting that because of the American revolution that it is o.k. to incite a rebellion against the Democratically elected government of the United States?

Nobody suggested revolting against the government.

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I think this is the more widely accepted understanding of the word. And she damn well knew it. But in a display of Taqiyya she demonstrates how the Muslim tactic can work to deceive the unwary non-Muslims.

Yes, it certainly is. And, again, it all depends on how you view that conflict (NOTE: Let's not get into an argument on the Palestinian intifada, because that's not what this thread is about).

Trajan Octavian Titus · 08-24-07, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique

Actually has more of an anti-imperialist undertone than an islamist one, but that all depends on how you view the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. The point is that it doesn't matter what you think the word relates to; it's a word and can be used however the user wants to.

After all, "revolution" has a violent undertone but doesn't necessarily imply violence. And I don't think I've ever heard you complain about someone using the word in a non-violent manner.

If she called for a revolution in NYC I would be saying the same thing, sorry she called for an intifada in NYC and no amount of spin is going to change that fact you know as well as I what an intifada is, it was an incitement to rebellion against the U.S. government.

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If you saw the shirts you would understand that.

"Intifada in NYC" end of story the people wearing the shirts and those endorsing its message need to be put under surveillance immediately.

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No?

I'm saying that the American rebellion against the British was an intifada.

So you endorse a rebellion in NYC?

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Nobody suggested revolting against the government.

You yourself stated that intifada means rebellion.

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Yes, it certainly is. And, again, it all depends on how you view that conflict (NOTE: Let's not get into an argument on the Palestinian intifada, because that's not what this thread is about).

This thread is about A) a Madrassa headed by Muslim radicals being funded by tax payer dollars, and B) Muslims calling for an intifada in NYC.

Khayembii Communique · 08-24-07, 02:47 PM

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If she called for a revolution in NYC I would be saying the same thing, sorry she called for an intifada in NYC and no amount of spin is going to change that fact you know as well as I what an intifada is, it was an incitement to rebellion against the U.S. government.

Didn't the shirts just say "Intifada USA"? That could mean a number of things; it could mean a revolt against "American culture" (which makes sense because these were shirts). It could also mean that she was actually calling for a revolution against the US as you claim, but many people have done that. Go listen to some punk.

I don't see why you're getting so flustered about some shirts.

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"Intifada in NYC" end of story the people wearing the shirts and those endorsing its message need to be put under surveillance immediately.

Again, she stated she wasn't using it literally but figuratively as a rebellion against "pop culture" as thousands before her have done.

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So you endorse a rebellion in NYC?

How'd you get this out of that quote?

And it depends on what you mean by "rebellion". If you mean it figuratively as she did, then yes, of course I do. If you mean it literally, then certainly not.

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You yourself stated that intifada means rebellion.

Yes, I did. It is a word that can be used in many ways and doesn't have to imply a literally violent uprising. Such as how rock n' roll was a "revolution in music". Or how punk rock was a "rebellion against society". Or what about rebellious teenagers? They aren't literally going out and revolting against the government.