SgtRock

Schools in the UK are dropping lessons on the holocaust to avoid offending muslims. This IMO this political correctness at its worst. To think we should not teach the truth to avoid offending muslims who are taught lies in there homes and mosques is offensive to me and most people.

Why are we so worried about how muslims feel? This story is 4 months old and I have not been able to find any updates on it. If anyone has please post them here. Thankyou, Sgt Rock

read articles on this subject at the links below

Teachers drop the Holocaust to avoid offending Muslims | the Daily Mail

Teachers Drop Holocaust Out of Fear of Muslim Students - Associated Content

Dhimmi Watch: UK: Teachers drop Holocaust, Crusades, for fear of offending Muslims

Rick

Like they drop the "dead white males" in the US. One of the fundamental reasons that government education has to be ended is this PC infection.

Thelost1

They don't, actually, they just don't base all of the LA classes around them any more. Most people do take these lessons, however.

But yeah, Holocaust denial is fvcked up.

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Chanda

It happened in ONE (1) school:

"One history department in a northern UK city stopped teaching about the Holocaust because it wished to avoid confronting anti-Semitic sentiment and Holocaust denial among some Muslim pupils."

Urban Legends Reference Pages: Holocaust Teaching Ban in the UK

This "news story" is way overblown.

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Simon W. Moon

The actions of a single school in another country show that public education does not serve the interests of a democracy or our natl defense?

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Gardener

The report CITED one school. To cite means to use as an example, so that does not necessarily mean that this happened in only one school.

You didn't say whether or not you support this practice, as your response sought only to downplay it. What are your thoughts on the actual practice?

Chanda

The fact that there could have been other schools is not justification for reporting it as fact. Where is the evidence of this happening in "schools" (plural)? According to Snopes, there was only one:

"Even news articles that bear titles such as "Britain Schools Ignore the Holocaust" and "Schools Drop Holocaust Lessons" point out that only one history department in a northern UK school did that. In all the rest of the country's schools, information about the Holocaust was still being imparted to students."

If you read the study, it details how the Holocaust is being taught in other schools.

http://www.dfes.gov.uk/research/data...iles/RW100.pdf

This was just an isolated case of misguided efforts in one school. It is not worthy of international concern.

Gardener

[quote=Chanda;607135]The fact that there could have been other schools is not justification for reporting it as fact. Where is the evidence of this happening in "schools" (plural)? According to Snopes, there was only one:

"Even news articles that bear titles such as "Britain Schools Ignore the Holocaust" and "Schools Drop Holocaust Lessons" point out that only one history department in a northern UK school did that. In all the rest of the country's schools, information about the Holocaust was still being imparted to students."

If you read the study, it details how the Holocaust is being taught in other schools.[quote]


Actually, what the report stated was that there were barriers present. Did you not read the actual report, yourself? It's exact words were "a number of constraints currently act as barriers" (to teaching sensitive subject matter). It also mentioned the tendency of teachers (plural) to avoid the subject.

The report oulined steps they felt would help rectify the situation, but acknowleged the situation as it exists which is that teachers, for one reason or another,were failing to teach about the Holocaust. That is why they issued the report in the first place -- because there was a problem.

It's no wonder why. Britain has the most radical Muslims in Europe. 15 %of British schoolage Muslims support bin Laden. 40% want to be ruled by Sharia. Alargemajority ofallBritish Muslimswant speach critical of Islam to be criminalized. No wonder teachers are intimidated into silence.




I will take this as a yes, you do support the sublimation of the truth to bigotry. You were asked a direct question and you failed to object to the practice. By this same reasoning,I would expect you would support teachers failing to talk about race relations in this country for fear of offending the KKK.

Once again. The report did not say the practice was confined to one school. The report said there was a problem in the schools and listed the probable causes for such problems. You are intentionally mischaracterizing the report just as much as anybody does when they try to sensationalize it into a case where the British school system is advocating dropping the Holocaust from its curriculum.

What it is saying is "there is a problem here. Here are the sources of the problem. Here are some solutions. Here is an example of one school that is part of the problem.Here is an example of a school that is part of the solution.

I mean,really now. Do school sytstems write reports like this if it is just the behavior of one or two teachers in one school? Of course not. Common sense should tell you otherwise.You very desperately want to portray it as completely isolated, though, and that is what I don'tunderstand. Why do you support censoring the truth in order to appease viscious racists in the first pace? If you objected,you would have already said so.

That you did not is telling,indeed.

Chanda

The study examined "how educators in Britain were teaching sensitive and/or controversial aspects of history and to highlight (which) approaches had worked among those that had been tried." It was not limited specifically to the Holocaust.

No, the report does not state that teachers were failing to teach about the Holocaust, with the exception of the one example given. That example was given because it was an extreme case. If the study were about multiple schools failing to teach (specifically) the Holocaust, what would be the purpose of mentioning the one example? The listing of "Barriers" to addressing "sensitive and/or controversial aspects of history" doesn't necessary indicate those aspects were not taught or that they were "ignored," because barriers can be overcome. The purpose of the study was to show approaches being used by teachers to address sensitive/controversial events which indicates these issues were being taught.

I said the efforts of the school were "misguided." How does that indicate support to you?

The report did not specify that the Holocaust was "ignored" by any school other than the one in the example. Where is the evidence that more than one school failed to teach (specifically) the Holocaust?

Simon W. Moon

Nor did it say that it was confined to the UK. So potentially, every, single school in the entire world may be having this exact same problem.

I'd better go to my local high school and protest because obviously they're a part of it!

Here's the money quote for those who're interested;

Some teachers also feel that the issues are best avoided in history, believing them to be taught elsewhere in the curriculum such as in citizenship or religious education.

For example, a history department in a northern city recently avoided selecting the Holocaust as a topic for GCSE coursework for fear of confronting anti-Semitic sentiment and Holocaust denial among some Muslim pupils.