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Old 07-26-07, 12:46 PM   #41
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Re: Obama solicits La Raza backing

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No not just one of the members. The founder of La Raza is a racist. I can post more quotes by Gutierrez (Founder of La Raza) spousing racist rhetoric I will include links if you like? Something tells me that nothing will convince you. You have made up your closed mind.
That still doesn't prove that La Raza itself promotes or advocates racism. You can repeat your straw man argument until your hands fall off, but I will never reduce myself to using oversimplified logic like that. Calling someone a racist, especially when they are a Presidential candidate, is a very serious charge and unless you have some very sound logic and proof to back it up, your argument doesn't hold up. And no, posting loose interpretations and roundabout oversimplified logic doesn't do it.
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Old 07-26-07, 12:48 PM   #42
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Re: Obama solicits La Raza backing

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I have the Raza manifesto openly calling for the the gringo invaders to be expelled and for Aztlan to become a reality, just how in the hell do you interpret that?
Yes, I'm sure in a loosely interpreted way you have all sorts of evidence proving that La Raza is all for Reconquista and Aztlan, but it holds absolutely no water and judging by your previous rebuttals I doubt this will either.
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Old 07-26-07, 12:52 PM   #43
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Re: Obama solicits La Raza backing

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Yes, I'm sure in a loosely interpreted way you have all sorts of evidence proving that La Raza is all for Reconquista and Aztlan, but it holds absolutely no water and judging by your previous rebuttals I doubt this will either.
lmfao the title of their god damn manifesto is "El Plan de Aztlan," in which they call for whites to be expelled, but you're right that's not proof of them calling for Aztlan or for Mexicans to reconquer the South West.
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lmfao the title of their god damn manifesto is "El Plan de Aztlan," in which they call for whites to be expelled, but you're right that's not proof of them calling for Aztlan or for Mexicans to reconquer the South West.
What does that manifesto have to do with La Raza? From what I understand, it was adopted by the Chicano movement, not La Raza. More straw man arguments?
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