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Old 07-21-07, 04:33 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Abortion ban posed for Colo. '08 ballot

Add Colorado to the list of states whose people like the dark ages.


The Denver Post - Abortion ban posed for Colo. '08 ballot

"An anti-abortion group is working on an initiative that it hopes will eventually ban all abortions in Colorado.

The ballot, planned for November 2008, will ask voters to define human life as beginning at conception.....

The proposed ballot language would state that "the terms 'person' or 'persons' shall include any human being from the moment of fertilization."....

There are similar measures taking shape in Alabama, Georgia and Mississippi, said Carrie Gordon Earll, a spokeswoman with the Colorado Springs- based group.

She added that amending the U.S. Constitution has been a goal of abortion-rights opponents since 1973.

"The state efforts are just a different tactic to that strategy," she said. "It's a fresh and novel approach to the issue." "
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Old 07-21-07, 04:38 PM   #2 (permalink)
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The Denver Post - Abortion ban posed for Colo. '08 ballot

"An anti-abortion group is working on an initiative that it hopes will eventually ban all abortions in Colorado.

The ballot, planned for November 2008, will ask voters to define human life as beginning at conception.....

The proposed ballot language would state that "the terms 'person' or 'persons' shall include any human being from the moment of fertilization."....

There are similar measures taking shape in Alabama, Georgia and Mississippi, said Carrie Gordon Earll, a spokeswoman with the Colorado Springs- based group.

She added that amending the U.S. Constitution has been a goal of abortion-rights opponents since 1973.

"The state efforts are just a different tactic to that strategy," she said. "It's a fresh and novel approach to the issue." "


This sounds highly unlikely to succeed.
I don't think it's worth wasting energy on; it'll fizzle.
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Old 07-21-07, 05:08 PM   #3 (permalink)
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This sounds highly unlikely to succeed.
I don't think it's worth wasting energy on; it'll fizzle.

With Focus on the Family willing to chip their millions of $ to support it, we can't take it too lightly.
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Old 07-21-07, 05:11 PM   #4 (permalink)
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With Focus on the Family willing to chip their millions of $ to support it, we can't take it too lightly.
Fascist in the Family is hemorrhaging money.
They're currently in no position to finance something of this scope.
All wi' be well, all wi' be well, and all manner o' things wi' be well.
Trust me, this is going nowhere.
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Old 07-21-07, 05:21 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Re: Abortion ban posed for Colo. '08 ballot

I'm sure they won't mind the girls dying having back alley abortions.
Hey Colo. enjoy your new tax rates from all the Moms you forced to have babies on WELFARE!!!
What? You want to CUT off WELFARE? Well you can't force girls to have babies and cut off their WELFARE!!!
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Re: Abortion ban posed for Colo. '08 ballot

Colorado is getting very liberal, and the Republicans in the state are more often than not of the Libertarian variety. The state is way to far removed from the Bible Belt (I think like 30% of the state calls itself agnostic), for this to have any chance at all of passing.
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Why is the zealots of the religious right so insistent on shoving their superstitious beliefs down everyone else's throat?

As we have seen recently it is these same characters who scream values and morals that are the ones whom are pedophiles as well as customers to prostitutes - not to mention paying for blowjobs from gay hookers.

All these morons need to get their heads out of their arses.
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Old 07-21-07, 06:28 PM   #8 (permalink)
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With Focus on the Family willing to chip their millions of $ to support it, we can't take it too lightly.
If you are actually in touch with the organizations capable of lobbying your position, have you considered forcing representatives to discuss the sentience/sapience argument of the fetus?
Have you considered a literary campaign to relate the onset of remorse to a claim for rights?

At this time, there is a common law argument (RoeVWade) that birth is required for personage, citizenry, and due process rights.

The RoeVWade argument ignores an essential element most feel forced to ignore. Does it matter to the fetus?

Science and reason are on the choice side and consistent with birth in the common law argument for citizenry.

That is, forwarding your cause is possible in other ways.
Many are content to discuss how they feel about how they feel about a particular position.
This may force them to face accusions of egregious ignorance.
Why don't you help them and yourself?
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Could you provide a link to the draft amendment itself please?
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Colorado One Step Closer to Outlawing Abortion » Constitutionally Right

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Be it Enacted by the People of the State of Colorado: SECTION 1. Article II of the constitution of the state of Colorado is amended BY THE ADDITION OF A NEW SECTION to read: Section 31. Person defined. AS USED IN SECTIONS 3, 6, AND 25 OF ARTICLE II OF THE STATE CONSTITUTION, THE TERMS “PERSON” OR “PERSONS” SHALL INCLUDE ANY HUMAN BEING FROM THE MOMENT OF FERTILIZATION.
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