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Old 07-21-07, 06:05 PM   #71 (permalink)
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Jose Padilla has all of his due process rights and now awaits trial in a civilian court.
Yea after how long was he in jail for?
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Look here sir, and really look, HE AINT A CITIZEN I DONT CARE!!!
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Yea after how long was he in jail for?
There is jurisprudence dating to WW2 for unlawful combatant, try again.
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Look here sir, and really look, HE AINT A CITIZEN I DONT CARE!!!
He's still a human being who the U.S. sent to be tortured. Because he's not a citizen of the U.S. all the sudden he doesn't have the right to not be tortured? Your sense of morality really scares me sometimes TOT. "He's not a citizen of the U.S. so we can just 'kidnap' him and send him to be tortured in Syria".
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Re: Democrats cut 'John Doe' provision

I've been torn on this, but I've come down on one side of it. Although I see that allowing reporting to be consequence free, regardless of merit would make it rough on arabs in general, as I see it, the dumb hicks in this country vastly outnumber the arabs, and as a product of which the arabs are going to be mistreated and disenfranchised regardless of whether or not the John Doe provision is made law, and thus the marginal cost of said law is relatively low. Along with this, we know that there will be dickhead judges and John Edwards-esque attorneys who would create a significant disincentive to report suspicious activity if there is no restriction and legal precedent of winning one of these cases is set. So as I see it, the marginal cost of this law is significantly less than the marginal cost of not having this law.
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