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A scathing, well written attack on Harper's love of guns

foo said:
So why is Canada, with strict gun control, so much safer than anywhere in the USA?

And besides, please read the link I posted. It just might change your mind
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Wrong.


Please avail yourself of the facts. It is easier to own a gun in Canada than much of the US.

The lower crime rate is due to cultural differences, not legislation.

In both Canada and the US a majority if not all gun related crime is committed by people with illegal weapons.

And I have no idea what you are on about Harper, I can't find a bill or a measure, not even a speech where he even talks about it. The only thing he has done is scrap the insane idea of a national gun registry; after $2 billion and five years in development it had ot be crushed. The stupid idea came as a result of one incident involving a rifle that has never been repeated.

As a Canadian I would appreciate it if you didn't post false information.
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Thank you
 
Grand Mal said:
They're not forbidden here. My son has a license for a handgun. Forget about a permit to carry it outside your house, though, ain't gonna happen. Mostly because no-one here wants it to happen.
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You know what I have to do to buy a rifle?

Pay money.

That's it
 
foo said:
This is the Canada forum. I'm tired of having Americans tell Canadians what's right for them. If you are an American, please butt out
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No...you butt out.


We, as Canadians are welcomed in these forums. It is rude and obnoxious, and terribly un-Canadian to tell people to butt out. It is also very stupid, and you are guilty of what WE accuse them, arrogance and a refusal to listen to input.

Every member of this forum is welcome to comment here.
 
Fearandloathing said:
You know what I have to do to buy a rifle?

Pay money.

That's it
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I bought one, inherited the other.
There's lots of guns in Canada, lots that have never been counted. I lived up north for years and I live in the sticks now and I don't think I know anyone here who doesn't own a rifle.
It's not an issue, though. The subject never comes up, unless someone needs to borrow some .22 long to kill the pig or something.
 
For those who might be interested about the real laws on guns, start here

Gun politics in Canada - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

In November 2009, Bill C-391 passed second reading in the House of Commons by a vote of 164 to 137. If passed through the entire parliamentary process by the House and Senate, the bill would have abolished the requirement to register non-restricted long guns. While the proposed legislation was a private member's bill, it had the support of the Conservative government. The bill was referred to the House of Commons Committee on Public Safety for further action. However, after several months of hearings, the Opposition majority on the committee recommended that no further action be taken to advance the bill. In September 2010 Bill C-391 failed to pass a third reading.

On October 25, 2011, Public Safety Minister Vic Toews introduced a bill to amend the Criminal Code and the Firearms Act, to abolish the long gun registry and destroy all records.

On February 15, 2012, Bill C-19 passed third reading in the House of Commons; the motion to abolish the long gun registry passed 159 to 130 and Bill C-19 became law.
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They abolished a national registry of shot guns, rifles and replicas...

That means "American style crime is on the way to Canada....."

Socialists, we have them...

Sorry
 
Grand Mal said:
I bought one, inherited the other.
There's lots of guns in Canada, lots that have never been counted. I lived up north for years and I live in the sticks now and I don't think I know anyone here who doesn't own a rifle.
It's not an issue, though. The subject never comes up, unless someone needs to borrow some .22 long to kill the pig or something.
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I cannot find it, but I once saw a break out of gun ownership in Canada and the United States. It said that while Americans own more guns per individual, the "known" gun owners suggest the rate of households with guns was not very much different, and outside of Toronto, Montreal and Vancouver ownership per household was greater.

Every pickup I see in the Okanagan, Alberta and Sask has at least a gun rack. People forget that we live in some dangerous country. I would not think of overnighting in these mountains without a rifle.

Where we differ the most is that Canadians simply don't think about a weapon as protection. Why would we, hell I seldom lock my front door. Last month in Vancouver there were 57 robberies...in a population of about 600,000. There have been no shootings nor murders in nearly a year.
 
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