Debate Politics Forums forum
Go Back   Debate Politics Forums > Debate Politics Forum > Archives



 
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 07-02-07, 04:45 PM   #1
Banned
May True Debate Winner
 
Trajan Octavian Titus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Last Seen: 03-05-08 05:10 AM
Location: We can't stop here this is bat country!
Posts: 20,915
Thanks: 169
Thanked 565 Times in 482 Posts
Lean: Very Conservative
Gender: Male
Bush Commutes Libby Sentence

Waiting for a link haha.
Trajan Octavian Titus is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Reddit!Stumble this Post!Google Bookmark this Post!
Old 07-02-07, 04:48 PM   #2
Sage


 
Gibberish's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Last Seen: 03-17-10 08:43 PM
Location: San Diego, CA
Posts: 6,089
Thanks: 698
Thanked 1,167 Times in 782 Posts
Lean: Moderate
Gender: Male
Re: libby sentence commuted

Quote:
Originally Posted by Trajan Octavian Titus View Post
Waiting for a link haha.
I'm surprised he's serving any time I thought he would be pardoned by now.
__________________
When the facts change, I change my mind. What do you do?
Gibberish is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Reddit!Stumble this Post!Google Bookmark this Post!
Old 07-02-07, 04:55 PM   #3
Banned
 
26 X World Champs's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Last Seen: 07-04-08 07:30 PM
Location: Upper West Side of Manhattan (10024)
Posts: 7,536
Thanks: 952
Thanked 434 Times in 319 Posts
Lean: Liberal
Gender: Male
Re: libby sentence commuted

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gibberish View Post
I'm surprised he's serving any time I thought he would be pardoned by now.
BTW - For any of you who think this pardon is cool you damn well better not EVER bring up Clinton's pardons ever again. I was against Clinton's pardons, Ford's pardon of Nixon and this one too.

This is another dark day for the Bush record but what else is new?

Apparently the details are that Bush commuted the sentence only, not the fine or the felony conviction. He will continue to be on probation.

No more bitching about Clinton or you'll once again be proving what a hypocrite you are...
26 X World Champs is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Reddit!Stumble this Post!Google Bookmark this Post!
Old 07-02-07, 05:00 PM   #4
GIRTH 2.0
Mod team member

 
RightinNYC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Last Seen: Today 02:40 AM
Location: New York, NY
Posts: 21,261
Thanks: 2,414
Thanked 8,880 Times in 4,438 Posts
Lean: Slightly Conservative
Gender: Male

Moderation Team:  Thank you!! 
Total Awards: 1

Re: libby sentence commuted

Newsday.com: Bush commutes sentence for Libby

Quote:
President Bush commuted the sentence of former aide I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby Monday, sparing him from a 2 1/2-year prison term in the CIA leak case.

Bush left intact a $250,000 fine and two years probation for Libby, according to a senior White House official, who spoke on condition of anonymity because the decision had not been announced.
__________________
People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf.
RightinNYC is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Reddit!Stumble this Post!Google Bookmark this Post!
Old 07-02-07, 05:02 PM   #5
Change we can laugh at
Mod team member


 
Zyphlin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Last Seen: Today 06:41 AM
Location: Herndon, Va
Posts: 12,520
Thanks: 5,829
Thanked 7,660 Times in 4,228 Posts
Lean: Conservative
Gender: Male

Moderation Team:  Thank you!! 
Total Awards: 1

Re: libby sentence commuted

Actually, this is a decent bit different then Clintons.

And I think Bush made the right choice here. Despite the fact it was pretty much blantantly persued for absolutely no reason, the fact of the matter is perjury was committed. However, it was committed in regards to an investigation that has found no actual crime to charge anyone with, and where the original person that did the act that is at the very least debatable as being a crime was known from the start.

There have been numerous things done by the judge showing he had some bias, and the sentence just went along with that. The sentence being commutted is exactly what it should be. He shouldn't be getting off with what he did scott free, but in no way shape or form should he have had to serve the amount of prison time that the judge had ruled.
Zyphlin is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Reddit!Stumble this Post!Google Bookmark this Post!
Old 07-02-07, 05:02 PM   #6
Gettin' mine...
Dungeon Master




 
Lerxst's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Last Seen: Yesterday 04:32 PM
Location: Nose to nose...
Posts: 13,748
Thanks: 3,030
Thanked 3,670 Times in 2,095 Posts
Lean: Moderate
Gender: Male

Dungeon Master:  Thank you. US Army Reserve:  12 years US Army Reserve US Army:  4 years active duty, US Army 
Total Awards: 3

Re: Bush Commutes Libby Sentence

I have come to expect no less from our esteemed leader.
__________________
Step into my office....
Lerxst is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Reddit!Stumble this Post!Google Bookmark this Post!
Old 07-02-07, 05:06 PM   #7
Pundit-licious

 
shuamort's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Last Seen: 02-26-09 02:46 PM
Location: Saint Paul, MN
Posts: 7,297
Thanks: 278
Thanked 987 Times in 546 Posts
Lean: Independent
Gender: Male

Veteran Moderator:  Thank you for all your contributions to DebatePolitics! 
Total Awards: 1

Send a message via AIM to shuamort Send a message via Yahoo to shuamort
Re: Bush Commutes Libby Sentence

Let's see, man found guilty goes free. What's next?!? Amnesty for illegal immigrants? Oops.
shuamort is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Reddit!Stumble this Post!Google Bookmark this Post!
Old 07-02-07, 05:09 PM   #8
Banned
May True Debate Winner
 
Trajan Octavian Titus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Last Seen: 03-05-08 05:10 AM
Location: We can't stop here this is bat country!
Posts: 20,915
Thanks: 169
Thanked 565 Times in 482 Posts
Lean: Very Conservative
Gender: Male
Re: Bush Commutes Libby Sentence

Quote:
Originally Posted by shuamort View Post
Let's see, man found guilty goes free. What's next?!? Amnesty for illegal immigrants? Oops.
Illegal Immigrants actually broke the law.
Trajan Octavian Titus is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Reddit!Stumble this Post!Google Bookmark this Post!
Old 07-02-07, 05:11 PM   #9
Sage

 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Last Seen: 03-05-10 12:15 PM
Location: America (A.K.A., a red state)
Posts: 7,259
Thanks: 159
Thanked 339 Times in 261 Posts
Lean: Conservative
Gender: Male
Re: libby sentence commuted

Quote:
Originally Posted by 26 X World Champs View Post
BTW - For any of you who think this pardon is cool you damn well better not EVER bring up Clinton's pardons ever again.
If a Republican White House aide being convicted of perjury for remembering a date from years before differently than a partisan Democrat operative with a history of memory issues isn't a case crying out for a presidential pardon, then no pardons are justified. Oh yeah, and the underlying crime in this sham wasn't even a crime and someone else admitted to committing it.

Clinton's pardoning of terrorists, drug-dealers, relatives, people who lied/refused to testify to protect him from prosecution, etc. were nothing like this case.
aquapub is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Reddit!Stumble this Post!Google Bookmark this Post!
Old 07-02-07, 05:11 PM   #10
Banned
 
Billo_Really's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Last Seen: 01-14-09 08:22 PM
Location: HBCA
Posts: 18,930
Thanks: 391
Thanked 1,054 Times in 739 Posts
Lean: Very Liberal
Gender: Male
Re: Bush Commutes Libby Sentence

Quote:
Originally posted by TOT:
Illegal Immigrants actually broke the law.
So did Libby!
Billo_Really is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Reddit!Stumble this Post!Google Bookmark this Post!
 

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:01 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2010, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO
Debate Politics.com Copyright ©2004-2009
no new posts