dixon76710

"UNDERLYING" crime. You wouldnt understand.

Trajan Octavian Titus

If it was led by Bush then there wouldn't have been a special prosecutor the investigation would have been done by the AG and his own justice department, the special prosecutor was appointed because the Democrats demanded it.

Stinger

I wonder if the leftest and Bush haters here have really considered the consequences of supporting the concept of politicians using the courts and prisons to get rid of their political opponents.

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Gibberish

Actually it would have been by done by the AG's second in command, no wait it would have been his intern, no wait it would have been done by this secretary...Damn I can't seem to remember who it was done by.

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Trajan Octavian Titus

Yet another imaginary scandal.

Binary_Digit

All you have to do is get off your keester and read the freaking indictment!

http://www.usdoj.gov/usao/iln/osc/do...t_28102005.pdf

31. In or about March 2004, in the District of Columbia, I. LEWIS LIBBY, also known as “SCOOTER LIBBY,” defendant herein, did knowingly and corruptly endeavor to influence, obstruct and impede the due
administration of justice, namely proceedings before Grand Jury 03-3, by misleading and deceiving the grand jury as to when, and the manner and means by which, LIBBY acquired and subsequently disclosed to the media information concerning the employment of Valerie Wilson by the CIA.

32. It was part of the corrupt endeavor that during his grand jury testimony, defendant LIBBY made the following materially false and intentionally misleading statements and representations, in substance, under oath:

a. When LIBBY spoke with Tim Russert of NBC News, on or about July 10, 2003:

i. Russert asked LIBBY if LIBBY knew that Wilson’s wife worked for the CIA, and told LIBBY that all the reporters knew it; and
ii. At the time of this conversation, LIBBY was surprised to hear that Wilson’s wife worked for the CIA;
b.
LIBBY advised Matthew Cooper of Time magazine on or about July 12, 2003, that he had heard that other reporters were saying that Wilson’s wife worked for the CIA, and further advised him that LIBBY did not know whether this assertion was true; and
c.
LIBBY advised Judith Miller of the New York Times on or about July 12, 2003 that he had heard that other reporters were saying that Wilson’s wife worked for the CIA but LIBBY did not know whether that assertion was true.
33. It was further part of the corrupt endeavor that at the time defendant LIBBY made each of the above-described materially false and intentionally misleading statements and representations to the grand jury, LIBBY was aware that they were false, in that:
a. When LIBBY spoke with Tim Russert of NBC News on or about July 10, 2003:
i. Russert did not ask LIBBY if LIBBY knew that Wilson’s wife worked fortheCIA,nor did he tell LIBBY that all the reporters knew it; and
ii. At the time of this conversation, LIBBY was well aware that Wilson’s wife worked at the CIA; in fact, LIBBY had participated in multiple prior conversations concerning this topic, including on the following occasions:
•
In or about early June 2003, LIBBY learned from the Vice President that Wilson’s wife worked for the CIA in the Counterproliferation Division;
•
On or about June 11, 2003, LIBBY was informed by a senior CIA officer that Wilson’s wife was employed by the CIA and that the idea of sending him to Niger originated with her;
•
On or about June 12, 2003, LIBBY was informed by the Under Secretary of State that Wilson’s wife worked for the CIA;
•
On or about June 14, 2003, LIBBY discussed “Joe Wilson” and “Valerie Wilson” with his CIA briefer, in the context of Wilson’s trip to Niger;
•
On or about June 23, 2003, LIBBY informed reporter Judith Miller that Wilson’s wife might work at a bureau of the CIA;
•
On or about July 7, 2003, LIBBY advised the White House Press Secretary that Wilson’s wife worked for the CIA;
•
In or about June or July 2003, and in no case later than on or about July 8, 2003, LIBBY was advised by the Assistant to the Vice President for Public Affairs that Wilson’s wife worked for the CIA;
•
On or about July 8, 2003, LIBBY advised reporter Judith Miller of his belief that Wilson’s wife worked at the CIA; and
•
On or about July 8, 2003, LIBBY had a discussion with the Counsel to the Office of the Vice President concerning the paperwork that would exist if a person who was sent on an overseas trip by the CIA had a spouse who worked at the CIA;

b. LIBBY did not advise Matthew Cooper, on or about July 12, 2003, that
LIBBY had heard other reporters were saying that Wilson’s wife worked for the CIA, nor did
LIBBY advise him that LIBBY did not know whether this assertion was true; rather, LIBBY
confirmed to Cooper, without qualification, that LIBBY had heard that Wilson’s wife worked at the
CIA; and
c. LIBBY did not advise Judith Miller, on or about July 12, 2003, that LIBBY had heard other reporters were saying that Wilson’s wife worked for the CIA, nor did LIBBY advise her that LIBBY did not know whether this assertion was true;
In violation of Title 18, United States Code, Section 1503.

And that's just one of the counts he was found guilty of. I'd post more but it's not easy to copy/paste from a pdf file because the formatting gets screwed up. Plus you probably wouldn't read it anyway. You really ought to do your own homework anyway. Start by reading the whole indictment, it's not that hard. The link is right there!

Gibberish

They all are.

Someone suspects something is wrong with all the secrecy and can't find out who the real blame is so they find someone that makes the slightest wrong twitch and burns them at the stake.

It's no different then what happened to Clinton.

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rhinefire

Why is Billy Bob at every, yes every Hillory rally? I thought she did not care much for him after Monica. You don't think she's using him to.......nah, that wouldn't be fair to the other candidates.

Stinger

An indictment is only what a prosecutor ASSERTS, not what was PROVEN in court. YOU tell me what he evidence beyond a reasonable doubt was that PROVED Libby knowingly and purposefully lied in order to obstruct justice and what was the obstruction. Note that what you tried to use as proof totally ignores the fact that justice had already been served when Armitage told investigators HE first mentioned Plames name to Novak.

And BTW from your own cite

" i. Russert asked LIBBY if LIBBY knew that Wilson’s wife worked for the CIA, and told LIBBY that all the reporters knew it; and"

It wasn't a secret, everyone already knew so why did it matter who said what to whom? Reporters were telling the WH that she worked at the CIA, so what was the crime that he was lying to cover up and obstruct the judicial proceeding?

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Binary_Digit

Since he was found guilty of 4 out of 5 counts in the indictment, then it WAS proven in court. Sheesh!


You asked for specific evidence that Libby lied. I gave it to you. What Armitage told investigators is irrelevant to that end. Libby lied to the FBI and the CIA. Period.

Your answer is in your own words. Reporters were not supposed to know her status at the CIA. Somebody (Armitage, maybe others) told those reporters. So there's your crime, Sherlock.

I'm not going to speculate why Libby lied, because I'm not a conspiracy theorist. The facts speak for themselves. For whatever reason, he lied. It's that simple.