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Old 07-04-07, 11:14 PM   #151
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Re: Bush Commutes Libby Sentence

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Bottom line is this should have never gone to trial..........Even the jurors said so and several were for giving Libby a pardon.....
I agree. Just like Clinton, this should have never gone to trial.
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Old 07-04-07, 11:43 PM   #152
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Bottom line is this should have never gone to trial..........Even the jurors said so and several were for giving Libby a pardon.....
They should've been saying that then before they found him guilty.
Seems like now that the tables have turned perjury isn't a crime anymore?
You neocons are getting quite ridiculous, flip flopping on your own condemnations.
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Old 07-05-07, 12:19 AM   #153
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Re: Bush Commutes Libby Sentence

I have to side with Bush on this one.
What would YOU do if YOU were Pres and someone possibly had info on you or your V-Pres that could get you and him impeached?
Simple answer, PARDON or IMPEACHMENT. Even being as dumb as Bush is he must know what action he should take to save his and Cheneys A$$.
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Old 07-05-07, 12:41 AM   #154
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Why? What does Armitage have to do with what Libby said? The law doesn't say that it applies to the first person who leaked a covert agent's name, does it?
Fitzgerald was appointed a special prosecutor and charged with finding out where the leak came from and if the person leaking it broke a law in doing so. Once he determined that it was Armitage and that no laws were broked (which he knew at the beginning of the investigation), he should have closed the case. Anything else he did was outside the scope of his authority.
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Old 07-05-07, 07:47 AM   #155
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Fitzgerald was appointed a special prosecutor and charged with finding out where the leak came from and if the person leaking it broke a law in doing so. Once he determined that it was Armitage and that no laws were broked (which he knew at the beginning of the investigation), he should have closed the case. Anything else he did was outside the scope of his authority.
Fitzgerald was appointed a special prosecuter and charged with find out where the leak came from. His investigation showed that there was more than one leak. Are you saying that because he found one leak he was supposed to stop and not investigate the others?

Back on topic: Libby was found guilty by a jury and Bush was forced to make his move before the appeals process played out because he couldn't risk Libby getting pissed and talking. That's obstruction.

The Bush Crime family fails the American people grievously but when it comes to one of their own........baby, they are all over it.
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Back on topic:[/I] Libby was found guilty by a jury and Bush was forced to make his move before the appeals process played out because he couldn't risk Libby getting pissed and talking. That's obstruction.

The Bush Crime family fails the American people grievously but when it comes to one of their own........baby, they are all over it.
I think some of you have difficulty distinguishing between reality, and the shiite youve imagined in your own mind.
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I think some of you have difficulty distinguishing between reality, and the shiite youve imagined in your own mind.
silly, delusional public. Get with it!!

There were no voting irregularities in 2000 or 2004. The process worked like a well oiled clock.

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I agree. Just like Clinton, this should have never gone to trial.
Why not???? I mean Clinton, he had the opportunity to go to trial but turned it down an pled guilty but why shouldn't his behavior with a state employee not have gone to trial?
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Re: Bush Commutes Libby Sentence

The bottom line is, Bush did what he had to do. He knew that doing it would hurt him and the Republicans politically but it beat the alternative of Libby spilling the beans. This is why he tried to sugarcoat it by not granting the full pardon now, which will come when he leaves office.

But corruption like this really causes one to rethink the pardon process.
If a President/Vice President...et al.....can break the law and then use a scapegoat such as Libby to coverup the misconduct so that they are shielded.....and then overturn the scapegoats sentence as payment for loyalty after a conviction by a jury trial.....where is the accountability? where is the responsibility?

The pardon process has been misused repeatedly but never quite so deviously. Just another example of how Bush and the Republicans have morally bankrupted this country during this administration.
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Old 07-05-07, 08:39 AM   #160
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They should've been saying that then before they found him guilty.
Yes, why they said he was guilty and then turn around the next day and say that Bush should nullify their verdict is curious at best.
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You neocons are getting quite ridiculous, flip flopping on your own condemnations.
What flip-flop I think most conservatives have been quite consistent vis-a-vis the Plame matter.
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