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Old 06-24-07, 06:30 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Its seems that faith will be playing its part in the Presidental election yet again. It just makes me sick that we in the United States judge a person's compentence and morality on the sole basis of their particular religion or lack their of, its completely pathetic.
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Old 06-25-07, 09:20 AM   #2 (permalink)
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When most people are completely ignorant of politics and how the process works, of course they're going to go with all the shallow means of picking one person over another. Religion and how they look on TV are the primary criteria for a lot of people and it is very pathetic.
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Old 06-25-07, 10:44 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Its seems that faith will be playing its part in the Presidental election yet again. It just makes me sick that we in the United States judge a person's compentence and morality on the sole basis of their particular religion or lack their of, its completely pathetic.
I highly doubt the majority of voters use religion as their sole basis for supporting a particular candidate. I don't know one person in real life who would admit to doing that and I know some very religious people.
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I highly doubt the majority of voters use religion as their sole basis for supporting a particular candidate. I don't know one person in real life who would admit to doing that and I know some very religious people.
Quite alot of people wouldn't vote fr an athesist, so religion is a big factor in US politics. Have you ever heard of a congressman, senator or President say he/she DIDN'T believe in god??
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Old 06-26-07, 08:18 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Quite alot of people wouldn't vote fr an athesist, so religion is a big factor in US politics. Have you ever heard of a congressman, senator or President say he/she DIDN'T believe in god??
Actually there is a Representative from CA that has admitted he was an Atheist a few weeks ago.
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Actually there is a Representative from CA that has admitted he was an Atheist a few weeks ago.
And of course, we can't forget Jesse Ventura who was an ardent atheist, but they are in the vast minority and it's damn hard to get elected unless you pay homage to people's favorite imaginary friend.
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Old 06-26-07, 12:56 PM   #7 (permalink)
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And of course, we can't forget Jesse Ventura who was an ardent atheist, but they are in the vast minority and it's damn hard to get elected unless you pay homage to people's favorite imaginary friend.
Or perhaps the large majority of our country believes in God and that is reflected in our representative government.

I get really sick of seeing you denigrate others for expressing one of their fundamental Constitutional rights. How very American of you.
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Its seems that faith will be playing its part in the Presidental election yet again. It just makes me sick that we in the United States judge a person's compentence and morality on the sole basis of their particular religion or lack their of, its completely pathetic.
I think you're way off here on your assumption about "we in the United States." Perhaps you've seen one too many examples of some one using religion as a moral compass to decide who they want to represent them in their government. But at the same time you're ignoring the hordes of the population who DON'T use a person's faith as the sole basis of their voting decision.

On another point, most people of faith that I know (myself included) are incredibly wary of any political figure who claims to be a certain faith (Christian, God-fearing, church-going, or anything else) simply because we all know that politicians are inclined to say things they don't really mean.

Also remember that the U.S. isn't the only religious society in the world. In fact, according to wikipedia, about 74% of the world population adheres to some sort of organized religion. So it's not surprising and it's also not necessarily a bad thing that faith will be playing a part in the next presidential election.
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Old 06-26-07, 05:46 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Its seems that faith will be playing its part in the Presidental election yet again. It just makes me sick that we in the United States judge a person's compentence and morality on the sole basis of their particular religion or lack their of, its completely pathetic.
What's your evidence that "we in the United States judge a person's competence and morality the sole basis of their particular religion or lack" thereof? Show me where that happens.

Also, where's it coming into play now? The only people I've seen REMOTELY worried about it are people who are trying to discredit Romney by saying that certain people don't want to vote for him because he's Mormon.
They're trying to create controversy where there actually isn't any.

And, judging by this thread, it's working.
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I get really sick of seeing you denigrate others for expressing one of their fundamental Constitutional rights.
What, the fundamental Constitutional right to be a clueless idiot and believe irrational, nonsensical things? Sure, anyone can do that, and I'm practicing my fundamental Constitutional right to laugh at it.

Don't like it, find the ignore button.
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