MarkoH

Nowadays here and there one can see people blaming George Bush for the war in Iraq and Afghanistan. But these people leave behind that American President has imposed a very complicated but responsible and honorable mission of saving the world from spreading Islamism - pseudoreligion responsible for immense amount of pain, bloodshed and devastation in much greater scale than other religions. Many people think the 9/11 was a start-up of a new era. Don't fool yourself - it was only a development of the longstanding confrontation between two civilizations - Islamism and Christianity. God bless America to annihilate Islam as such! Nor it is essential that all Americans along with Christians and Hebrews around the world stand with America to make Islam pass into nothingness as the disgrace of mankind! United we stand!

vauge

Welcome to Debate Politics!

I agree that we (and every country) need to rid the world of Islamo fanaticism, but not the Muslim religion. There are many many Muslim folks, Muslim communities and Muslim places in the world that are indeed peaceful.

The same applies to Christianity. It can be peaceful as well. The biggest difference is that fanatical Christians normally do not cut off peoples heads - they just throw rocks at parades.

robin

Yes but how about the Christian fanatics like Bush & Blair that have sent their forces ramping into the wrong country like a rampaging elephant & now killed tens of thousands of Iraqis ?
Don't you think they need to be dealt with ?
So far death toll from terrorists = under 4k people.
Death toll from Bush & Blair = tens of thousands.

vauge

What about the insurgents that are now targeting Iraqi civilians and mosques?

Our fault or fanaticism?

nkgupta80

"complicated but responsible and honorable mission,"

maybe, Bush has honorable intentions. But "Complicated but responsible," yeah sure, he's created a lot more complications with his IRRESPONSIBLE war in Iraq."

Of course Muslim fundementalism is more rampant than Christian fundementalism, or any other religious extremism. The world's Christianity is based in the first-world, a lot more stable in that sense. But look at Islam. Its holiest city Meccais in a country ruled by brutal despots. Much of the muslim population lives in third-world countries, and are also subject to despotic, fundementalist regimes. Arab leaders used Israel as a way to unite the muslim populations under more fundementalism ideologies. Hell, the US trained the Taliban, making them a lethal terrorist breeding force.

nkgupta80

maybe the fanatacism was already there in Iraq although this kind of behaviour would not have been tolerated by Saddam's regime (dictatorships don't like civil unrest...). But us going in there certainly didn't help stop fanatacism. It just gave these fundementalists a reason to target those innocent, angry civilians caught in war, and make them terrorists.

Billo_Really

There are better ways to stop the slaughter than...

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Surenderer

Undoubtably(sp?) two of the worse things that can be done is Islam.....attacking innocent people and attacking someone coming for a mosque....two perfect examples of these being peoples who dont give a ---- about Islam



peace

GarzaUK

The thing about Islam is it has yet to modernize. Islamic clerics rarely debate about their Koran, their religion like Judaism and Christainity does. To them the Koran is infallible.

Take a journey in Europe and even the Colonial America hundreds of years ago.

The Pope said that if a Catholic kills a Protestant or Jew, not only does he not sin, but is ensured internal life in heaven.
Sounds familar with radical Islam doesn't it.

Islam idealogies are still stuck in the medeival times I'm afraid, when radical Christainity was the curse of the world.

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shuamort

Moderator Gavel


I moved this thread over to Religion and Philosophy as the OP has more to do with that than the war on terror.

/Moderator Gavel