Jaguar b. p.

The U.S. kills scores of Iraqis daily and jails more, this has been going on for over 4 years
and you've already killed hundreds of thousands of people.

Only the battle of Fallujah which lasted DAYS has killed a quadruple-digit number of people,
so you can imagine your grand total for 52 months.


They did vote to get killed. My message to them ahead of the elections was to place the ballot in the box if they want to die, and some of them did. So now the campaign promise should be fulfilled


That is absolutely right, the rest of the responsibility lies with the Iraqi collaborators. You can go to this YouTube video from 0:41 seconds till 1:06 for a nice sum-up of this: Link


No, you attacked Iraq on a false pretext, and then announced you would occupy it indefinitely after admitting that you attacked in over a lie.

So the free Iraqis will resist you (peacefully or otherwise), and the lowlifes will kill alongside you

cherokee

Really then show me where the US is killing civilians by the scores like your retarded friends are doing every damn day. Why did the 60 cheering soccer fans deserve to die for?


Yes that’s true we killed over 1000 of your terrorist scum-sucking buddies. And took another 1000 prisoner. Civilians caught in the cross fire and those your coward friends used as human shields died as well. Your friends don’t have the guts to fight like real men, that’s why you have to brainwash into believing they’re doing Gods work and his reward will be 71.5 more women then he can handle.


This was about people killed at a fooking Market place and NOT a polling place! Do your buddies have a magic bomb can that can the difference between someone who voted and someone who didn’t?...

Wow you true colors are showing. You supported Saddam. You care nothing about the people of Iraq. In fact by saying it’s ok to kill any who voted you just admitted you wish 12 million Iraqi’s MUSLIMS to die.
Lets see you back talk you azz out of that one..


Can you provide something other then a music video as proof of any bull**** you say?
I’m not some brainwashed Islamic loser, I require real facts and not made up Islamic propaganda bullchit


Yep Bush is a moron you’ll get no argument for the on that. It was stupid to invade Iraq.


Its not the US they are resisting slick. The battle’s the US is having is nothing to the little holy war that’s killing hundreds each and every week.
Maybe that’s why you ignored everything in my post about it. You don’t give a rat’s azz that the Muslims in Iraq are killing hundreds of Muslims every week. You only care about the few insurgents the US is proudly killing when they grow balls to face them in battle. But even still you have to promise them 72 virgins.. What a frigging joke.

Hey billo its nice for you to finally admit you supported Saddam the insurgents and the Murder of US and Iraqi's..

Volker

They did commit attrocities against prisoners of war, for instance.

Anglo-Americans killed hundred thousands of German civilians, with many of them where wedged in destroyed buildings and had to burn alive. I doubt, that attrocities of the Wehrmacht or the Waffen SS reached this extend.

The most German attrocities has been commiteed in concentration camps and in occupied areas "police" forces like the Einsatzkommandos, general SS and Gestapo.

Don't be too sure.

Now you question my intelligence instead of answering the question.
You could have said "no".

Jaguar b. p.

Those are the same people. Apparently you want me to believe that election turnout is 70%, yet there are never voters among the dead

Yea, it's called hitting a Shia neighborhood

That's right, that is the project. Everyone who voted will be killed

cherokee

This is too funny. We have a retarded sunnia insurgent supporter here...
So do you people have handbook that shows you how to kill kids and stuff?

I bet you people have ESP and chit so that you can tell what people did say like voting. What invisible signal do you get when you see a voter?

BTW...
Where at in the Koran does it give you the right to violate the laws of Islam to kill Shia children?


Wow! You sound just like another guy I know from history. He thought he could kill whoever he wanted and he made a project of it as well. His name was Hitler. Is he your hero?

You are one pathetic son of a bitch.....

Slainte

Heh, what kind of god wouldn't be proud of that attitude.

For someone so anti-western you have a terrific grasp of the English language, is English your mother tongue?

Or have you just learned it like a good little colonial pet?

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MSgt

This is not exactly accurate, but somewhat correct. Baghdad is a very emotional place and there is a strong Sunni support for the insurgency and a strong Shia support for militia. The added troop strength has allowed our forces to be in more places than before. This also means that they can be more pro-active with intel. However, this also means more confrontation. Baghdad was supposed to have shown some improvement by now, but as it stands, Baghdad appears to be having an identity crisis. The most peaceful cities and towns are those that do not have such a diverse population in them (they mimic the region's seperations).

This is true in the short run, but not so absolute in the long run. The surge was too small to accomplish what was intended in Baghdad quickly, which was the voiced opinions of our military leaders. However, you work with what your country gives you to the best of your ability. Despite not getting the reaction the White House hoped for in Baghdad, it has accomplished some good in the outer areas where we did not expect it so soon. "IED alley" is no where near what it used to be, because a lot of the IED factories have been destroyed and those that would set up new ones are continually looking over their shoulder thanks to local intel. And the "Wild West" (nickname for the Al-Anbar Province between Baghdad and the Syrian Border) is no longer so lawless. This surge, as small as it is, was enough to target Al-Queda elements within this region and control areas while repairs were under way from previous encounters. Some insurgent elements, while remaining opposed to our presence, have even enlisted our aid to repel Al-Queda elements out of their areas. In return, they are starting to aid us in protecting their regions from the actual enemy. Local elections are taking place as well and this is promise for the next Iraqi election as opposed to another boycott (The Sunni appeared to have learned).

No matter what the issue in life is, the impact of one thing can start a domino effect elsewhere.

This would not be a disaster. It would simply be another way to deal with this. The difference between the Sunni and Shia in Iraq and...Saudi Arabia and Iran? A border. A partitioning of Iraq has always been a very real option and despite the White House's determination to stray from such public revelations, I suspect they are aware of it. Since Iraq was a frankenstein's monster of a country to begin with, we should be preparing ourselves and this region for a possible seperation plan to place things as they were (as best we can) before the crayons slashed the lines. This doesn't have to mean three seperate countries, but three distinct seperations with a unity through collaberation. If they conclude to not stay together they conclude, this at least would be in their best interest.

If the Sunni have indeed learned that boycotting the elections were not in their best interest, this idea that Iraq is a "puppet" and not a freely "elected" government will be of no use to their arguments.

This is entirely misleading (as was probably your intention). It is a fact that most Iraqis want us out of Iraq, but it is also a fact that most of these individuals know that they do not want us abondoning them to chaos and open to Al-Queda.

The correct assessment of these reports is that they don't want us there one second longer than we have to. The only ones that want us gone today are those Sunni who are being prevented in driving Iraq into governmental chaos or Al-Queda who is wasting bodies as they throw them into the meat grinder. It is also of note to state that those Shia who are a part of the militias want us out of their way so they can avenge as they wish. But, unless you are willing to state that the vast majority of Iraqis are militant insurgents, militiamen, or Al-Queda sympathizers, even you have to embrace honesty and acknowledge that most Iraqis don't just simply want us gone.

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rhinefire

Good catch!!

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oldreliable67

You continue to phrase your responses as if to suggest that the Holucast was a "civilian" matter, and therefore, of no concern to the German military. We both know that is wrong.

Your obtuseness, deliberate or otherwise, appears to be preventing you from understanding exactly why I should not and would not answer that question at all, or even acknowledge it.

oldreliable67

Here is one Dem who admits he wants the surge to fail:


And he is the number 3 guy in the party. Terrific. Not.

Read the whole thing here.