Khayembii Communique

A state invading and occupying other sections of another people's land is a much more serious crime than political infighting within a state. Although I would like to see this covered more.

Captain America

Lebonon attacking Al Queda? Fatah and Hamas at odds? The Iraqi's turning on Al Queda and other insurgent extremists?

Could it be possible that the moderate and peaceful Muslims have had enough and decided to quit just standing by silently, (as they did when extremists were focused on killing jews and westerners,) when these extremists started killing their own?

Could that be possible?

Nah......

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politic_analyst

Why do you think Israel would pair better than the best army in the world?

politic_analyst

If you look into historical battle tactics, the main faction who wants this to happen would not do the fighting. It's similar to Rome giving false citizenships to other nations and then re-enlisting them to fight for them as the first wave army. In this case, the palestinian government backed by us will be doing the fighting for us. A perfect strategy until people realized that they are being manipulated to fight their own kind for the benefit of someone else. There will be no peace in that part of the world because that is a perfect market for our main industry, warfare.

politic_analyst

Historically back in the end of WWII Palestine was the country who allowed Israel back in the middle east, and in return many palestinians probably feel they were forced out of their own country because Israel decided to take over. That would explain the hatred for Israel from the palestinian and thus a never ending battle. Historically the mess started again after WW II when the allies decided to subdivide the middle east.

GySgt

Yeah..sure it is. How many "civilians" have been killed here? How many "civilians" have been killed in Lebanon due to Lebanese military forces fighting the same garbage America is up against everywhere? Were this Israel retaliating with a few rockets into a determined military target after enough rocket launches into Israel, pictures of the very few Palestinian dead (no Israelis or the Muslims that live within Israel) would be on front pages everywhere and you wouldn't have to google the numbers. Hell, even an attack into an internationally recognized terrorist organization in south Lebanon was enough to bring the global critics to their pulpits. Somehow, Hezbollah was supposed to be safe behind their "soveriegn" border.

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GySgt

"Historically"....this started well before WWII. The present day hatred that was re-ignited in 1949 is mere tradition from centuries of religious bickering over patches of dirt and the buildings on it. Today's Palestinians merely adhere to Arab masters elsewhere for things that occurred well before their births.

For the Muslim Middle East, the Crusades never ended.

GySgt

Who's the best army in the world? And what armies of the world have had to deal with Radical Palestinians in the past?

politic_analyst

I was referring to the traditional sense. The best army in the world is noted to be in the US. If you are referring to Israeli commandos, in the 70's or 80's they might have been the elite, however the war tactics today has even gone to even smaller groups/cells that can operate without the other. No one knows who belongs to these cells so the normal torture tactic imposed don't work. These folks are getting trained in the traditional commando style training. One tactic that would work is is you are indiscriminate on who you take out, is that the right way to address the problem, of course not, it makes more people volunteer to be part of a new cell.

If you are also referring to their tactics in the sky for protecting their airplanes, the failure is purely from a political stand point in the US and this is why planes still get hijacked in the US.

About fighting the palestinian, we are using the Israelis to fight them as we have been doing in latin america, we let the armies of the puppet government take care of our problems since it keeps our military personnel out of harms way. A better tactic if you like saving american lives in warfare.

GySgt

Holy cow, you are way out there. You are talking about "proxy" warfare and you are correct. But, we are not using Israelis to do anything. Palestinians are not our problem. They are very focused on a specific thing (when they aren't slaughtering one another). As far as Radical Islam, it appears that the Muslim governments are starting to wake up to the smell of their own garbage. Now all we need to do is get the AU marching in Africa with us behind them and we will be on the right track.

It is the Arabs from around the region that have used the Palestinians to rid them of Israel. Always, no matter what happens between the governments of Israel and "Palestine," there is the Radical element and other Arab governments reminding Palestinians of the distant past. The rest of the Middle East will not stop hating Israel until the last drop of Palestinian blood has been spent and then they will simply embark on the same embarrassing expeditions they undertook in the past.