Summerwind

Dignity of victims? Then what in the hell were we doing unearthing the remains of Iraqis to prove that Saddam killed some of them? We already knew he had, right? At the time wasn't part of the reason to give them a proper burial and to give the families closure? In every other disaster I can think of we have gone to great lengths to find the bodies of the deceased for the same reason. So are you saying all those Jews are not worthy of the same unearthing and reburial and their families are not worthy of feeling closure?

Volker

Correct, it does not make sense to do this.

Don't try to tell me that the invaders in Iraq care about such topics. They do not even have statistics about how many people they kill.

I don't know, maybe Americans do this. This is strange.

These are thousands of graves with some of them having like 5,000 bodies in it and they don't have names on it. I don't expect families or someone else to seek persons they know to unearth and rebury them, I think, it would be absurd to try this.

americanwoman

We came into this world as one race and I hope one day we are all united again as one race. I could care less if Aryan nations exist and so do many others. The difference between us is we do realize you guys have a right to exist and wouldn't kill you off to get rid of you. Whether you killed millions or even one person for that idealogy, it's sickening and mad.

Summerwind

Fair enough, then you are accepting that in YOUR preference.

I can see based on many current events regarding the unearthing of mass graves, the requirement of proof of graves concerning the holocaust. Maybe not all of them, but some reasonable archaeological proof that 6-10 million could have been and were in fact exterminated.

Summerwind

We also came into this world as a fighting, dominating species (editted here); so if it isn't race we are fighting about, it will be something else. Peace is just not genetically an option anytime soon.

americanwoman

It's not really about peace per se. It's about all races mixing into one. Therefore no race is (supposedly) the "superior" one.

Volker

The way I understand it, at Yahad in Unum, the project I'm talking about, they count cartridges to make statements about the numbers. Maybe they do additional archaeological work.

Press-Telegram - Ukraine breaks silence on slaughter

Summerwind

Like bullet cartridges? Are you kidding me? That would be like counting dirty toothpicks to determine how many cavities the world has. Shooting happens a heck of a lot where death is not a given and many times more than one shot is found in a body that has been shot. Well, thank you for helping me off the fence on this issue. Clearly better proof for the estimates is required.

Summerwind

My point is that the only reason we differentiate by race is to incite inequality in its many forms; if race is no longer a differentiating factor, another factor will take its place and you will be back to wishing again; same thing, different discrimination.

Volker

Archival research, witness testimonies and on-site visits give them a good base for estimations. They do understand about what the cartridges tell them about a place, I guess.