Holocaust Denial query - Page 12

winston53660 · 10-06-07, 03:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Summerwind

Does it give you a hardon to call folks names or what? How impotent you must be.

Me and ToT disagree on just about everything under the sun but on this one me and him are almost in agreement. You do come off as a Holocaust denier.

CaptainCourtesy · 10-06-07, 03:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Summerwind

And just so you know it is offensive to call anyone a nazi who isn't one. Why should it be any more offensive for a german?

My comments were about Volker, specifically, as was stated in my post.

Summerwind · 10-06-07, 03:52 AM

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Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy

He may have commented that the numbers don't add up, but Aftrag's been here before, and his agenda has always been the same. He posts information either from the Institute of Historical Review or information similar to that found there. This information is fallacious, the organization has lost lawsuits concerning their claims, and he adheres to the holocaust denial theory. The numbers he and others like him post are incorrect, as they contain many omissions, create false conclusions, and deny direct evidence.

As far as the the cultural issue, I am a multi-culturalist, so I disagree with his position.

I still don't see how that makes him a nazi and I know it doesn't make me one. I have now been called one at least three times in this thread. I too have no problem with multi-culturalism, but it sure seems odd that tot and his ilk with their immigration perspective have any nerve to call Aftrag a nazi for his concern regarding multi-culturalism when their views are so close to the same.

Trajan Octavian Titus · 10-06-07, 03:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Summerwind

You called me a nazi.

You seem to fit that mold.

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And he didn't prove anything about being a nazi.

Which "he" Aufrag with the avator of Adolf Hitler or Dchristie who stated that the Jews declared war on Germany?

Both are Nazi's.

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He has commented numerous times that he believed that extermination occurred and that it shouldn't have

Where did either of those people say it shouldn't have? Umm, here in realitiville their only problem is that the Nazi's didn't complete their task.

Trajan Octavian Titus · 10-06-07, 03:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Summerwind

Does it give you a hardon to call folks names or what? How impotent you must be.

Holocaust deniars have three options:

Nazi

Islamofascist

Ignorant

which one are you?

Summerwind · 10-06-07, 03:56 AM

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Originally Posted by winston53660

Me and ToT disagree on just about everything under the sun but on this one me and him are almost in agreement. You do come off as a Holocaust denier.

I grant you that we generally all come here to spout our perspective with no regard for really considering others'. And as I said earlier, when I began reading this thread I was under the impression that I was a holocaust sympathizer. But Auftrag has some provocative POVs that give me pause and push me into a state of neutrality. I no longer have faith in the presentations of the past and it may be some time before I am able to resolve this. I do not see how a willingness to question facts that I absorbed by rote when I was in my teens makes me a holocaust denier and certainly doesn't make me a nazi.

Trajan Octavian Titus · 10-06-07, 03:58 AM

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Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy

He may have commented that the numbers don't add up, but Aftrag's been here before, and his agenda has always been the same. He posts information either from the Institute of Historical Review or information similar to that found there. This information is fallacious, the organization has lost lawsuits concerning their claims, and he adheres to the holocaust denial theory. The numbers he and others like him post are incorrect, as they contain many omissions, create false conclusions, and deny direct evidence.

As far as the the cultural issue, I am a multi-culturalist, so I disagree with his position.

Oh come on it's ****ing easier than that he's got a god damn Adolf Hitler avatar. He's a Nazi it's not even debatable.

Summerwind · 10-06-07, 03:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Trajan Octavian Titus

Holocaust deniars have three options:

Nazi

Islamofascist

Ignorant

which one are you?

But the premise that I am a holocaust denier is patently false and has been stated numerous times. So you must have some serious impotency issues to feel the need to exaggerate my position in order to rationalize yours.

Summerwind · 10-06-07, 04:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Trajan Octavian Titus

Oh come on it's ****ing easier than that he's got a god damn Adolf Hitler avatar. He's a Nazi it's not even debatable.

I have avatars turned off so I don't/wouldn't have known that.

Trajan Octavian Titus · 10-06-07, 04:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Summerwind

I grant you that we generally all come here to spout our perspective with no regard for really considering others'. And as I said earlier, when I began reading this thread I was under the impression that I was a holocaust sympathizer. But Auftrag has some provocative POVs that give me pause and push me into a state of neutrality.

Aufrag's view is that the holocaust didn't go far enough. His information is a complete joke, it is agenda driven, and it doesn't even stand up to one trip to the holocaust museum or one discussion with a holocuast survivor, I have experienced both and I would love to staple Aufrag's eyelids to his forhead and take him on a tour.