Shamgar

Christianity - the real target of hate in gay issue. . . .why? Compromise to gays is the destruction to the very tenants of Christianity. So the truth is easy to see by everyone chosing the common enemy to their movements . . . which is Christianity.

Gandhi>Bush

What tenants of christianity are under attack by the "gay issue?"

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MikeyC

I'm not a Christian and don't claim to know its "tenents," but in a secular society, even if the majority of people are Christians, any laws made should respect all/most religions, not just out of the beliefs of one. The fact that Christians believe homosexuality is a sin doesn't mean our nation has the right to alienate them from all of our institutions. Yes, technically they have the choice to marry the opposite sex, but marriage should be about the relationship, not the religion. Christian churches can continue to deny gay marriages, but our government should not. Especially considering there are benefits (as well as burdens) provided by our government to relationships that have reached the final stage of marriage. Homosexual and heterosexual relationships should be respected by the government. Christianity can continue to deny gay marriages WITHIN THEIR OWN CHURCHES so that Christians can uphold Christian tenents. However, the United States government should not be holding up Christian tenents. Not eating pork is an important Jewish "tenent" and I think we'd all find it unreasonable if pork was against the law. The only laws that the government should support are laws which protect all people's beliefs and rights, not the beliefs and rights of a few.

MikeyC

I'm not a Christian and don't claim to know its "tenents," but in a secular society, even if the majority of people are Christians, any laws made should respect all/most religions, not just the beliefs of one. The fact that Christians believe homosexuality is a sin doesn't mean our nation has the right to alienate them from all of our institutions. Yes, technically they have the choice to marry the opposite sex, but marriage should be about the relationship, not the religion. Christian churches can continue to deny gay marriages, but our government should not. Especially considering there are benefits (as well as burdens) provided by our government to relationships that have reached the final stage of marriage. Homosexual and heterosexual relationships should be respected by the government. Christianity can continue to deny gay marriages WITHIN THEIR OWN CHURCHES so that people's beliefs and rights, not the beliefs and rights of a few.

Shamgar

That homosexuality is a sin.
Homosexuals are not to be made pastors in Christian churches.
Homosexuals are not to be married.
Christians are not to practice pluralism or eqaulity to those excluded from the kingdom of heaven.
Christians are not to separate their personal belief from the public practices. . .

How about these for a start . . .

shuamort

Umm, who is attacking whom?

MikeyC

Like I said, they can be excluded from Christianity and Christian churches if those are you beliefs, but that does NOT mean the government can support these Christian beliefs since we live in a secular society. Under our constitution, homosexuals should be given equal rights and protections just the same as any Christian.

26 X World Champs

Beautifully written! Excellent.

The problem is these so-called spiritually enhanced citizens of America only recognize people who agree with them. Their ability for tolerance is retarded by their religious zealousy.

People who are tolerant are OK with everyone pursuing whatever makes them whole while anti-gay evangelicals aren't tolerant of anything. It's quite a double standard.

26 X World Champs

No it's not! What is a sin is people who infringe on other's personal fredoms. No way would Jesus ever tell a gay person that he's/she's a sinner. Only the mutated religious intolerants believe that it's a sin, and they probably believe so out of ignorance. People are people, who they have consenual sex with is nobody's business.
That too is wrong since there are pastors, not too mention all the Gay priests in the Catholic church....
To me this is the same thing as saying "Blacks are not to be married." It's blatant out and out bigotry.
LA DI DA. What did Groucho Marx say?
What does this mean? I don't understand?

Shamgar

Christian are not obligated to follow any laws that violate the laws of God . . .

Daniel 6: 22 My God hath sent his angel, and hath shut the lions' mouths, that they have not hurt me: forasmuch as before him innocency was found in me; and also before thee, O king, have I done no hurt. 23 Then was the king exceeding glad for him, and commanded that they should take Daniel out of the den. So Daniel was taken out of the den, and no manner of hurt was found upon him, because he believed in his God.

The lies attack the truth . . .so that would be you and your side . . . the pro-homosexual agenda . . .

Psalms 14: 1 To the chief Musician, A Psalm of David. The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.

Of course that is your unsubstantiated opinion not backed up by Scriputres . . .


There are many things that the catholics do that violate the laws of God . . .just because someone does something doesn't mean they have Scriptural authority to do it.

God is a bigot againtst homosexuals/tares . . .not a single one will enter the kingdom of heaven. (1 Cor 6:9-11; Rev 22: 15)