Liberals Simple-Mindedly Lash Out at Likenesses of Their Opponents - Page 3

faminedynasty · 05-18-07, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by aquapub

O'Reilly has never once thrown a violent tantrum.

Oh?

http://youtube.com/watch?v=edCG7AtVloA

"YOU WANT ANARCHY!!" ahaha.
We're all adults here. We are all well aware that there are hateful hacks on both sides of the political spectrum. My argument isn't that you know you're wrong to make the argument, it's just that you are more committed to partisan posturing and spreading the "only liberals do bad things" line of thinking than you are to truth.

Kelzie · 05-18-07, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by aquapub

So your devastating comeback is "you know you're wrong?"

Until the evidence says otherwise, I won't say otherwise. As it currently stands, liberals overwhelmingly dominate the violent, ape-like tantrum category (vandalism, shouting people down, assault, blatant violations of free speech, etc.) over conservatives by about 10 to 1.

You can smear me for paying attention to current events more than you if you want, but all that's going to do is reaffirm my observation that liberals are also crappy debators.

Rrreeeaallly? Source please.

Sergeant Stinger1 · 05-18-07, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by aquapub

You've shown one example, which might be politically motivated. That brings the score to about 1,000 to 1.

Yes, the word "only" is too far. "99% of the time" would have been more technically correct.

___________
That one picture is worth 1,000,000.
Score now:
1,000,000 to 1,000.

missypea · 05-18-07, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by aquapub

O'Reilly has never once thrown a violent tantrum. Apparently YOU'VE never seen the show.

Are you saying this man calmly discusses issues?

O'Reilly's Security Team

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O'Reilly calls soldiers war criminals

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O'Reilly says kidnapped victim enjoyed it

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O'Reilly attacks Jeremy Glick

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O'Reilly attacks educator of Geneva Rights

YouTube - Bill O'Reilly cuts mic of US Colonel Ann Wright

O'Reilly flips out on Jane Hall over Moyers

YouTube - Bill O'Reilly Flips Out On Jane Hall over Moyers

O'Reilly flips out on Geraldo

YouTube - Bill O'Reilly Flips Out On Geraldo Rivera

O'Reilly gets his ire up on Phil

YouTube - Bill O'Reilly gets his ass kicked by Phil Donahue!!

RightOfCenter · 05-18-07, 08:59 PM

This thread is the biggest bunch of partisan bashing bullchit I've ever seen.

"Liberals lash out!"
"Nu-uh! Conservatives do!"
"Liberals!"
"Conservatives!"
bla bla bla

faminedynasty · 05-18-07, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by RightOfCenter

This thread is the biggest bunch of partisan bashing bullchit I've ever seen.

"Liberals lash out!"
"Nu-uh! Conservatives do!"
"Liberals!"
"Conservatives!"
bla bla bla

Actually, I believe the argument is generally more like:
"Only liberals lash out"
"No, actually people on both sides of the political spectrum do"
That's an important distinction from your framing of it.

SFLRN · 05-19-07, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by aquapub

Actually it just means I pay attention. Conservatives consistently act on the side of free speech, with very few exceptions. Liberals routinely trample it.
Nope, they just understand it, unlike most people.

So they understand what Jefferson said when he talked about a "wall of separation?" Is that why many still push for prayer in school? Isn't that a clear violation of the establishment clause? If you do understand it, tell me the three standards of the Lemon's Test (of course you can look them up but only you will know if you actually know the current legal thought on the establishment clause).

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Originally Posted by aquapub

I doubt it.

So you've never seen the pictures where civil rights protestors are being attacked by dogs or being hosed down? What about McCarthy, isn't that an excellent example of when conservatives trampled on rights?

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Originally Posted by aquapub

Some "conservatives" are betraying the small government principle, but most are not. And conservatives expecially are not pressing for less economic freedom. Sorely misinformed.

If many (politician) conservatives are for smaller government then in what year did real government spending (inflation adjusted) decrease? It hasn't. If they were for smaller government then why do a number of different groups move to ban gay marriage or fight abortion at the federal level? If they were really for small government then why are they using the federal government to do something that is clearly the responsibility of the states? This of course isn't all conservatives. However, you can't say that no conservatives are pushing for such measures.

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Originally Posted by aquapub

Of course not. No one in their right mind would support freedom without bounds.

I'm not saying that. I am saying that neither party or ideaology specifically supports more freedom in social and economic matters. Conservatives take a number of stances that our Founding Fathers would not fancy as do conservatives. Its not truthful to say that only one ideaology supports or hates the Bill of Rights. All support at least parts of it and not other parts.

aquapub · 05-19-07, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Kelzie

Rrreeeaallly? Source please.

I went to Lexis Nexis and typed in the words, "shouted down" and "universtiy." There were 561 hits. I excluded a small number of articles from foreign papers, and articles where "shouted down" was not being used literally, and looked to prove my point about liberal tantrums against dissent outnumbering conservative ones 10 to 1, but I couldn't because I couldn't find a single one that wasn't talking about liberals throwing tantrums against dissent.

Same when I changed "university" to "speaker" (317 hits).

Same when I changed "speaker" to "comments" (521 hits).

Go ahead and check it out on Lexis Nexis or get someone else here to do it if you don't have access.

We're not talking about people behaving differently who have big noses vs. small ones here. We're talking about the semi-literate hysterics and conspiracy theorists of the left being more prone to ape-like tantrums against dissent.

It's not the partisan leap liberals want it to be.

aquapub · 05-19-07, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Sergeant Stinger1

___________
That one picture is worth 1,000,000.
Score now:
1,000,000 to 1,000.

Nice logic.

aquapub · 05-19-07, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by missypea

Are you saying this man calmly discusses issues?

I'm saying exactly what I said. O'Reilly has never thrown a violent tantrum. Liberals do it all the time. Between that, the fact that O'Reilly is merely one person, and the fact that O'Reilly isn't really a conservative, O'Reilly's passionate debating does not establish that ape-like tantrums against dissent is not a largely liberal phenomenon.