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Old 05-10-07, 01:14 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Does anyone really want this?

Do any of you really want someone running the country who believes in the following:

1) There are ppl that live a thousand years on the moon that are about 6 feet tall and dress like quakers

2) There are ppl that are living in the sun

3) The Garden of Eden was in Missouri

4) Native Americans were really jewish and will turn white once more when they accept Christ.

5) Blacks got their skin color due to the original murder (Cain). The black skin color was his mark of disgrace so everyone would know what he did.

6) There are numerous worlds and Jesus was just simply a regular guy who was able to become a God and the earth was the world He was able to be God of.

7) Lucifer and Jesus were actually brothers.

8) We ourselves are the offspring of Celestial Sex

9) Christ will return and setup Zion in Missouri where the Garden of Eden was

And finally and most shocking:

10) That the US government must be destroyed for not correcting the wrongs done to saints in Missouri!

This is what you will get if Mitt Romney is elected president. Scary thought isn't it?
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Old 05-10-07, 01:33 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Does anyone really want this?

Is that you Al Sharpton??
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Old 05-10-07, 02:04 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Is that you Al Sharpton??
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!

You know, I've read both the Book of Mormon and The Pearl of Great Price and this list of what Mormons believe is grossly over-simplified and misrepresented.
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Old 05-10-07, 02:06 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Re: Does anyone really want this?

I don't know the first thing about mormons, but wow - so far I haven't found anything that was blatantly false in the OP.

How do we know that Romney takes everything said as fact though? Couldn't this be the same as how very few believe in the literal interpretation of the OT?


Just asking, because I have no idea.
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BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!

You know, I've read both the Book of Mormon and The Pearl of Great Price and this list of what Mormons believe is grossly over-simplified and misrepresented.

Oh really?

2 Nephi 30.6 prophesies that the Indians who converted would turn "white and delightsome" a few generations after joining the church. This is what is written in the original, handwritten manuscript of 2 Nephi 30. It is in the original 1830 edition of the Book of Mormon.

In 1843, Joseph Smith declared: "…if the government, which received into its coffers the money of citizens for its public treasury, cannot protect such citizens in their lives and property, it is an old granny anyhow; and I prophesy in the name of the Lord God of Israel, unless the United States redress the wrongs committed upon the Saints in the state of Missouri and punish the crimes committed by her officers, that in a few years the government will be utterly overthrown and wasted, and there will not be so much as a potsherd left…"

He declared in 1837: "Inhabitants of the Moon are more of a uniform size than the inhabitants of the Earth, being about 6 feet in height. They dress very much like the Quaker Style & and quite general in Style, or the one fashion of dress. They live to be very old; coming generally near a thousand years. This is the description of them as given by Joseph Smith the Seer. Brigham Young also taught this as well as ppl living in the sun.

"Latter-day Saints know, through modern revelation, that the Garden of Eden was on the North American continent and that Adam and Eve began their conquest of the earth in the upper part of what is now the state of Missouri. It seems very probable that the children of our first earthly parents moved down along the fertile, pleasant lands of the Mississippi valley." (John A. Widtsoe, Evidences and Reconciliations, three volumes in one, Salt Lake City: Bookcraft 1960, p. 127)

We were begotten by our Father in Heaven; the person of our Father in Heaven was begotten on a previous heavenly world by His Father; and again, He was begotten by a still more ancient Father, and so on from generation to generation, from one heavenly world to another still more ancient...
LDS Apostle Orson Pratt, The Seer, 1853, page 132

After men...have become gods, ...they have the power then of propagating their species in spirit; and that is the first of their operations with regard to organizing a world. Power is them given to them to organize the elements, and then commence the organization of tabernacles. How can they do it? Have they to go to that earth? Yes, an Adam will have to go there, and he cannot do without Eve; he must have Eve to commence the work of generation, and they will go into the garden; continue to eat and drink of the fruits of the corporeal world, until this grosser matter is diffused sufficiently through their celestial bodies to enable them, according to the established laws, to produce mortal tabernacles for their spiritual children.
LDS Prophet Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses, 1852, Vol. 6, p. 275

Mankind are here because they are the offspring of parents who were first brought her from another planet, and power was given them to propagate their species.
LDS Prophet Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses, 1859, Vol. 7, p. 285

Each succeeding generation of gods follow the example of the preceding ones: each generation have their wives, who raise up from the fruit of their loins immortal spirits: when their families become numerous, they organize new worlds for them...they place their families upon the same...
LDS Apostle Orson Pratt, The Seer, 1853, pp. 134-135

There are many, many more I could list but these should suffice. So, you care to retract your statement?
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Re: Does anyone really want this?

OP makes sense, but also do we really want someone who believes a dead guy came back to life? Is that any more ridiculous than moon men?
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Re: Does anyone really want this?

The beliefs of Mormons sound no more preposterous than the beliefs of Christians, and we've never elected anything but.
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The beliefs of Mormons sound no more preposterous than the beliefs of Christians, and we've never elected anything but.
That's a very common misconception. Christianity and science actually co-exist perfectly. No other religion can say that. The Big Bang is an incredible apologetic tool for christians as it matches the bible. DNA and the genetic similarities fit perfectly with the bible. Most ppl do not realize these things, but they are very true. There is even a scientifically testable creation model that is out and is very accurate thus far.
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That's a very common misconception. Christianity and science actually co-exist perfectly. No other religion can say that. The Big Bang is an incredible apologetic tool for christians as it matches the bible. DNA and the genetic similarities fit perfectly with the bible. Most ppl do not realize these things, but they are very true. There is even a scientifically testable creation model that is out and is very accurate thus far.
Mormons can't use these same things to explain their creation story?

And what testable scientific theory explains the Resurection?
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As long as a president doesn't conduct policy on behalf of the US,based on his/her personal religious beliefs I could care less what they believe.

Not saying I'd vote for Romney, but his personal beliefs are his own. Now if he states we need to fund NASA to get to the moon, so we can meet the 6ft tall people living there then there might be a problem.

But he did run Mass. good enough for the people there to elect him to office, and there is no mass exodus from that state because he's doing crazy ****. He's IMO no better or worse than any other candidate out there, in regards to personal beliefs......
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