RBLpolitics

I know it's a loaded question but, it seems as though Republicans don't care how many of our soldiers die in Iraq in order to save face with a failed plan. "W" himself has admitted that Sadaam Hussein had nothing to do with 9/11. He also admitted there were no WMD's. So, 3376 fallen soldiers later,...we're still there! The administration keeps changing the reason we're there and Republicans keep falling for it...hook, line and sinker! Wake up! Give our troops a break! We can Save Lives by bringing our troops home.

Sergeant Stinger1

Repubs are "followers" not leaders. So that makes Bush sort of like their God and like the little sheep they are they will follow and agree with Bush no matter what. No questions asked.
I would like to get inside the Repubs heads to hear what they really think of Bush.
Probably something like this:
"It seems like 20 years Bush has been in office. I can't wait for him to leave."
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Repubs HATE our troops? Well I do say that often but I have come to the conclusion that they don't really HATE our Troops, they just don't mind them being in harms way because Bush said "its ok."

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I guess bush and the Repukes won cause Americans are totaly SCREWED!!!

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Lerxst

Wow...this thread is flamebait. Nothing more.

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I was so right. And you? Well you were so wrong. You lost. Ha. Ha.

RBLpolitics

It is definitely bait, but only to draw out discussion on a phrase used by conservatives against liberals for too long. From my view, liberals "love" the troops and want them home and safe, while conservatives "hate" the troops by supporting a policy that guarantees more of our soldiers will die.

Just my view...

Lerxst

You are making a blanket statement about all Republicans with your thread title and OP. That is the problem here. It doesn't appear that you are seeking to engage in a meaningful debate...it sounds like you are categorizing a group of people in a negative way in order to engage in a slugfest.

Just because the NeoCons and some republicans do it to the Dems doesn't make retaliation in kind right. It might feel good, but it is not a position from which to draw out anything meaningful.

I would also ask you to consider this. Regardless of why we went in and basically carpet bombed that country back into the third world, we are there. We did it. And unless we see this thing through there is a very real probability that we will create generations of enemies who will make it their lives work to avenge that wrong. Not just Iraqi's, but radical Islamists from all over the world.

Just a thought.

RBLpolitics

Regardless of why we went in? We are there? We did it?

I guess the difference is that you want to "see this thing through" even though, it seems, you might accept it was wrong in the first place.

I think we are creating more enemies by being there. More of the world hates us now. Remember what it felt like weeks after 9/11. We had the world's support behind us. I supported this president, but we have to face the fact that this administration went in with a failed plan. More soldiers are dying now but you guys think we're making progress! What has to happen for you to say enough is enough?

Karmashock

I'm going to level this challenge again... what is worth the loss of human life?


When the first skyscrappers went up it was a statistical fact that about 5 people were going to die every single time you decided to build one.


FIVE or more people died... every single damn time. Was 50 story building worth the price in blood?


How many people died making air planes into viable long range transport? If you decided that air travel was worth it, would that mean that you hate pilots or something?


What about the space program? How many people have died around the space programs all over the world? Failed launches... failed tests... the no doubt thousands of chimps wiht their brains splattered all over the cockpit... men left to die in cold vacuum... mothers and fathers exploding on take off... their children never to know the embrace of their parent ever again. If you decided to say it was worth it... does that mean you hate astronauts?



The construction workers volunteered for the job. They knew the risks and the work they did benefited everyone. What's more the vast majority of them worked until they were old and gray without any major injuries.

The astronauts volunteered for the job. They knew the risks and the work they did benefited everyone. What's more the vast majority of them retire from the profession without any major injuries.

Our soldiers volunteered for the job. They knew the risks and the work they did benefited everyone. What's more the vast majority of them retire from the military without any major injuries.


I ask you... do you want to live in a society that never risks even the lives of willing volunteers? Would you like to live in a society where no building is over 4 stories high... where no dangerous research is ever done no matter the benefits... where no war is ever worth fighting because all war has it's causalities?


This is the failure of your argument. It puts too few qualifiers on it's judgments and takes no consideration for the fact that these men and women chose to serve.


They are with few exceptions patriots and those that aren't have no business being there. They are our champions. Our heros. They go into fire and ash... to fight for this republic. And we will use them. Not abuse them... not discount them... not take them for granted... not treat them like poker chips in a game. We will out fit them with the finest hardware in the world. Designed by the finest military engineers in the world. We will give them the best training of any military force in the world. They will be backed up with air support, sea support, and vast land based logistical networks to see that they get what they need when they need it. Death from above? Point your laser GPS target painter and say "die" into a radio. It goes on and on... The american people are supporting the troops. There might be political wavering but the muscle of the country remains behind the troops. Our champions will not give up their blood easily sir. Often I'm quiet sure the enemy has realized exactly how expensive trying to take american blood really is... Typical attempts yield NO american dead and perhaps 30-200 enemy dead. That's a hard lesson for the enemy... and one that should be taught without mercy. It is in the interest of this people to see to it that our enemies are defeated utterly. Our enemies cry "death to america"... their cries have not gone unheard... and they shall be answered with thunder and lightening.

Lerxst

Do you know what happens to that country if we pull out now? Have you thought about it? Get back with me on your answer please.

americanwoman

Exactly! )


While people may or may not agree with the war, you can't blame Republicans for the whole thing. Don't forget there are Democrats in congress, too. I know people on every side who are split on the war. Not all Republicans are brain-washed war lovers and not all democrats are pacifist hippies.

So okay then, we are there and right now there is nothing we can do about it but finish the job, the one those people volunteered to do, and then leave. I do think we need to set a time table and pull out soon, but we can't just up and leave.

Trajan Octavian Titus

He never said there was what there was infact was a connection between AQ and Saddam.

Well everyone has the right to be wrong even the President, but the truth of the matter is that we have found 500 sarin filled binary warheads with indefinate shelflives and some of these warheads have even found their way into the hands of the insurgency, luckily though they did not know how to mix the precursors before detonation.

Umm no actually it is the Democrats who have spread the myth that WMD was the only reason for the war, there were actually numerous reasons listed in the AUMF against Iraq including bringing Democracy to Iraq and ending Saddam's brutal repression of his people.

I love leftist newspeak, routing for our troops to win the war is "hating the troops," but hoping against hope that they surrender and fail in their mission is "supporting the troops." Got to love that logic.