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Old 04-05-07, 10:07 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Is Evolution a fact or a belief?

Just wanted to gather some thought on this. Is evolution a fact or a belief?
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Old 04-05-07, 10:36 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Is Evolution a fact or a belief?

In scientific terms, it is a theory, just like the theory that the earth revolves around the sun. In laymens terms, we can call that a fact.

But because we're talking about a scientific theory, I picked other. Please note, because some moronic creationist will bring it up; A THEORY is not a GUESS in scientific terms.
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Re: Is Evolution a fact or a belief?

my belief is that Evolution is a fact
but that it does not exlude teh possibility for Creationism
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Re: Is Evolution a fact or a belief?

The specifics scientists claim about evolution aren't fact, but the theory of natural selection, which was what Darwin was about if I understand it correctly, is pretty ****ing rock solid.


Evolution can't be a fact, as it is a model from which predictions are drawn, and which is used to explain facts that we see. The model can be accurate, which would be equivalent with it being fact, but yeah...
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The specifics scientists claim about evolution aren't fact, but the theory of natural selection, which was what Darwin was about if I understand it correctly, is pretty ****ing rock solid.


Evolution can't be a fact, as it is a model from which predictions are drawn, and which is used to explain facts that we see. The model can be accurate, which would be equivalent with it being fact, but yeah...
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In scientific terms, it is a theory, just like the theory that the earth revolves around the sun. In laymens terms, we can call that a fact.

But because we're talking about a scientific theory, I picked other. Please note, because some moronic creationist will bring it up; A THEORY is not a GUESS in scientific terms.
Exactly why I voted other.
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It's not a fact because it's a theory. Facts are things like "my dog's fur is black", it's a fact, and used in tandem with theories, which are models we use to represent the real world in order to generate predictions, and in order to explain past phenomena.

Now it can be a fact that the theory of evolution accurately depicts the real world, but to say that evolution is a fact is to not understand the nature of a theory. It's petty, and thus why I trailed off, but that was what I was getting at.
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Just wanted to gather some thought on this. Is evolution a fact or a belief?
Is the current life on earth a result of evolution? Yes. Fact.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/evolution/

http://evolution.berkeley.edu/

http://www.mala.bc.ca/~johnstoi/essays/courtenay1.htm

http://www.mcb.harvard.edu/BioLinks/Evolution.html

If that's not a fact, then nothing is.


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Re: Is Evolution a fact or a belief?

I believe evolution is a fact. Does that count? :|
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Re: Is Evolution a fact or a belief?

I belive its a fact... The way I look at it is like this if your living in the arctic your body will be more resistant to cold, and if you have kids there they will also be more resistant to cold. And so on.... So i guess its a fact in my books and what everyone else thinks its not my buisness.
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