jamesrage

Does the cockroach in human form John Evander Couey deserve the death penalty and should he receive the death penalty?

This cockroach abducted a little a 9 year old girl and repeatedly raped her.Then he tied her wrist with speaker wire put her in a garbage bags while she was still alive and her buried her in ground her where she suffocated to death.

Hopefully the judge does not spit on the little girl by pulling a Judge Edward Cashman.Hopefully he sentences that cockroach to death with no appeals.

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Korimyr the Rat

It doesn't matter whether or not he deserves the death penalty-- whether or not he is capable of moral responsibility for his actions.

What matters is that we deserve to live in a society that does not allow men like him to live.

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Lachean

If you care about justice, it ALWAYS matters.

Here I can agree, insanity my ***, we know you're insane if you killed someone, still gotta die.

I am not so sure we are that deserving a society, but that is the ideal we should strive for. Castration is too good for slime like that, assuming he of course is guilty of these allegations.

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Kandahar

So you're against due process? Straight to execution? Perhaps you'd be more comfortable living in Iran. And it's charming to see you using the same terminology that they used during the Rwandan genocide.

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jamesrage

He has already been found guilty of the crime and the jury recommended the death penalty.What I am against is judges spitting on the on the victims by handing out lenient sentences to murderers and or rapist.

So your saying the victims of the Rwandan genocide and child molesters/rapist who murdered innocent children?Seeing you make some bull **** comparison to what I call a child rapist who murdered a little child to alleged terminology used during the Rwandan genocide must mean that you think of those victims as child raping murderers.

Kandahar

You said that you wanted him sentenced to death with no appeals, as though the judge even has the power to do that. What exactly is your problem with the appeals process? It exists for a reason: to ensure everyone a fair trial.

LOL. Yes James. That is what I was saying.

Cephus

And he's had one. Next, he gets a manditory appeal. After that though, unless he can actually do something to demonstrate he's factually innocent of the crime, why keep the endless appeals going? Is there any rational reason to allow twice-convicted murderers to keep appealing even though there is no reason whatsoever to think they are factually innocent of the crime?

Or maybe you just like wasting the public's money on worthless efforts?

Kandahar

Define "factually innocent" of the crime. Technically, ALL appeals are to determine factual innocence, or at least a reasonable doubt. If something was messed up during the original trial that could bring reasonable doubt to his guilt, then it's fair to give him his appeal.

Do you have so little faith in our justice system that you don't trust the appeals process to uphold his conviction if there's no reasonable doubt? If so, why are you so quick to trust the justice system to have reached the correct conclusion in the first place?

Korimyr the Rat

Justice is in the eye of the beholder. If I think someone deserves to die, and their death means enough to me to risk it, I won't need the State to kill them for me.

The State, by its very nature, cannot deliver justice. It can only uphold order, which is all that I ask of it.

I'd argue with that one. Plenty of perfectly sane, rational reasons to kill someone, even in cold blood. There are more than a few that I openly approve of-- particularly for those people responsible for killing men like Couey.

It doesn't matter who orders a man's execution, or if it is legally sanctioned or not. There's still the one man who decides whether to pull the trigger or not, and he's just as much a killer as the man he's executing.

Lachean

I don't think that is so. I believe there is an objective justice, just as there is an objective morality. I don't know what that is, but I think I can get pretty close, and I am damn proud of how close humanity has gotten.

Oh I don't disagree, I know I can be driven to violence. I could probably be driven to torture a man, which is a complete contradiction to my character, and my virtues. Its just that I hold the state to higher standards than I can expect from myself.

I completely disagree. The state, by its very nature, are the people, and I believe society will always get better at holding people accountable for their actions.

I can only hope that our judgment on what is a civil trespass also continue to improve.

Error on my behalf, meant to use the word murder. Which is a whole OTHER can of legislative worms. I know the man giving the order may not always be right, in fact in most cases I'm sure they've been wrong, while representing society. But I don't see that as a case for the subjectivity of justice.