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Maximus Zeebra · 03-29-07, 05:52 PM

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And once again you show us just who is in a competition to beat the other and who needs some sort of validation. Dude, we simply don't care what you do on your continent. We just don't want to have to come across the ocean and bleed for you anymore.

America has come so far so fast in such a short amount of time, because we rejected European ideas on how to "perfect" a society. Our diversity gives us the immigrant and religious competition to succeed. Our capitalistic internal competition is why we succeed.

The truth is that if we didn't have to continue to monitor the world after WWII and spend our treasure and change European diapers for the last fifty years, America would be even further than we are now. Either way you slice it, Europe owes us for their newly founded prosperity and Europeans are to blame for our inability to fully focus on internal issues for the majority of the last century.

Get over it.

Wow, how ignorant and hostile. What an attitude. So, lets take a look, where exactly has America come? Their society and wealth is about equal, just differently distributed. The average poor European is much richer than the average poor America, while the middle class is about the same. The other difference is that America have more superrich people, but thats just badly distributed money, as your poor people are far poorer than poor people in Europe.
Where exactly then has America come to that Europe hasnt? Is it global warfare and mass murdering you are talking about? Are you talking about the ability to wage war or thaving the "most powerful military in the world"? Now what kind of archievement is that really? What does that tell ME about the US and their goals? What do you really have to show for? A military that is the most powerful in the world but could be replicated easily if needed? Congrats, big archievemtn.

We dont owe the US anything, in fact, we created you, you should show some damn respect; You are all a bunch of European generations on a different continent. You are just envious because Europe is archieving so much more than the US on the global stage, and all this without "the most powerful military in the world", and hello, we dont go around bragging about it all the time, unless we meet some US pzerson who just have to brag about the US and their "great" milkitary archievments.

So congrats, your country has done a whole lot on foreign soil, contrubuted 0.1% of GDP average per year to fight poverty, started several wars, replaced dictators with dictators. So congrats..

Maximus Zeebra · 03-29-07, 05:56 PM

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Good God. And why no debt, Zeebra? What do you think is the principle reason the Eurozone "has no debt?"

Because as America spent treasure on a global security, squared off with the Soviets, and continued to prosper in our own lands, Europe sat back and suckled off of our provided security and focused on healing and criticizing.

You are welcome to join our European provided burden at any time where the Euro will climb and fall as the Dollar does. But I suspect that Europe would rather watch the world rot into World Wars than take the bruises that is associated with preventing them as it focuses on socialistic welfare states within the EU.

Yeah yea, of course, everything is Americas glordy, the Euro has no debt because of America. In fact, all our archievements are because of the US, even those before the US existed. The US is responsible for all good things, and all things that are European ins world war 2; Europe is just Hitler and Churchill, the US has the greatest military int eh world, the US is the best, and the US is great;;

OK?

Trajan Octavian Titus · 03-29-07, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra

Wow, how ignorant and hostile. What an attitude. So, lets take a look, where exactly has America come? Their society and wealth is about equal, just differently distributed.

Since you get to count the entire GDPs of members of the European Union in your GDP equality then I feel it's only fair to count Mexican and Canadian together with ours as well.

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The average poor European is much richer than the average poor America, while the middle class is about the same.

That's a load of crap Per Capita GDP is much higher in the U.S. than in Europe.

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The other difference is that America have more superrich people, but thats just badly distributed money, as your poor people are far poorer than poor people in Europe.

A) Wealth redistribution is a bad thing.

B) The reason why we have "superrich" people is due to the fact that country has been capitalist since its inception and average members of our society have been accumulating wealth for over 200 years, the same thing will happen in Europe especially when their economies go into the tank as they seem to be going and they are forced to rid themselves of their socialist ways and privatize, and it's not a bad thing, it's called trickle down economics.

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We dont owe the US anything, in fact, we created you, you should show some damn respect;

Actually it is we that have created Europe in its current Democratic form. We litterally rebuilt your continent from the ground up with the Marshall Plan not to mention the fact that we kept the Soviets from installing yet another in a long series of dictatorial regimes in Western Europe.

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You are all a bunch of European generations on a different continent.

Why did we leave Europe again?

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You are just envious because Europe is archieving so much more than the US on the global stage, and all this without "the most powerful military in the world", and hello, we dont go around bragging about it all the time, unless we meet some US pzerson who just have to brag about the US and their "great" milkitary archievments.

WTF are you talking about what has Europe achieved on the world stage?

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So congrats, your country has done a whole lot on foreign soil, contrubuted 0.1% of GDP average per year to fight poverty, started several wars, replaced dictators with dictators. So congrats..

We give far and away more money in private donations than the Europeans do; furthermore, we have not replaced one dictator for another Iraq and Afghanistan now have freely elected governments.

Trajan Octavian Titus · 03-29-07, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra

Yeah yea, of course, everything is Americas glordy, the Euro has no debt because of America. In fact, all our archievements are because of the US, even those before the US existed. The US is responsible for all good things, and all things that are European ins world war 2; Europe is just Hitler and Churchill, the US has the greatest military int eh world, the US is the best, and the US is great;;

OK?

Not having to pay for your own defense has surely given the Europeans a leg up, we're a hegemonic power your continent is filled with free riders.

DeeJayH · 03-29-07, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Trajan Octavian Titus

WTF are you talking about what has Europe achieved on the world stage?

rhetoric, superiority complexes, and appeasement

DeeJayH · 03-29-07, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra

We dont owe the US anything, in fact, we created you, you should show some damn respect; You are all a bunch of European generations on a different continent. You are just envious because Europe is archieving so much more than the US on the global stage, and all this without "the most powerful military in the world", and hello, we dont go around bragging about it all the time, unless we meet some US pzerson who just have to brag about the US and their "great" milkitary archievments.

see how long a country lasts without a powerful military, or the support of a country with the most powerful military.

and I think you would be hard pressed to find anybody on this board to find anybody who thinks your posts are anything but ignorant and hostile

Ikari · 03-29-07, 06:26 PM

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rhetoric, superiority complexes, and appeasement

To be fair though, I don't the the whole of Europeans are like MZ. I know quite a few people from Europe, and they're all pretty cool people. We have our differences of opinion, but they aren't condescending, snide, or insulting. They're pretty chill people, so I wouldn't condemn the whole because of one bad apple.

Inuyasha · 03-29-07, 06:31 PM

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To be fair though, I don't the the whole of Europeans are like MZ. I know quite a few people from Europe, and they're all pretty cool people. We have our differences of opinion, but they aren't condescending, snide, or insulting. They're pretty chill people, so I wouldn't condemn the whole because of one bad apple.

Good thinking. There are good folks everywhere even in Texas.

DeeJayH · 03-29-07, 07:12 PM

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To be fair though, I don't the the whole of Europeans are like MZ. I know quite a few people from Europe, and they're all pretty cool people. We have our differences of opinion, but they aren't condescending, snide, or insulting. They're pretty chill people, so I wouldn't condemn the whole because of one bad apple.

true, but i was speaking about the Govts of said countries and their policies that affect the World
I would not use a broad paint brush to characterize anyone like that
well except maybe Paris
actually.............................no maybe about it

danarhea · 03-29-07, 07:14 PM

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Good thinking. There are good folks everywhere even in Texas.

Thanx for the good word about me.