Spain judge says Bush and Iraq war allies should face war crimes charges - Page 30

GySgt · 03-28-07, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra

German growth is now stronger than Us growth. What part exactly of that do you not understand? Sure you conseal it, growth in some US states are lagging even stagnant, while growth in others are strong.

Oh geez. So now you are pretending that the countries of Europe are like individual states within one country? The EU will never be able to erase the tribes of Europe.

It's funny how you seem to need to relish in your successes. It's as if you are measuring it by American standards. After 18 consecutive quarters in which America held the lead, the performance of a single currency bloc has managed to pass American economic growth in the last 3. Is this what you are referring to? Is this where America starts an organization where Canada and all countries in South America all fall under a single currency to boost our numbers? This is petty.

America is America. We succeed and fail as one. The EU will never be able to function as America does on the global scale because the EU is merely an organization that tries to please many different tribes underneath it while holding strong to yesterday's model of statescraft. It was and is inevitable that after decades of passive and self centered existence, that these continental European countries would finally emerge from WWII with some success.

Instead of racing to be superior to America (another rediculous phenomenon for Europeans that strengthens your resentments), the EU should actually try to stand for something other than local social issues that individual governments can't solve on their own.

DeeJayH · 03-28-07, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra

Yes you did. There was no such violence as there is now under Saddam. Violence was severely punished, thus almost non existing.

all the violence was done by saddams regime
they were too busy hiding from him to go at each other
they could have put their differences aside after liberation, or if you prefer the toppling of the Saddam Regime, but they chose to attack each other despite our best efforts
we did not encourage it
we did not cause it

we gave them the oppurtunity to move forward, and like many muslim nations, they remained backwards
their choices are not our fault

PrimBabUB · 03-28-07, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra

I think your picture is pretty outdated.. In European minds when they think of Spain, their minds fill with sunny pictures and second houses.

Perhaps. It could be that I have an outdated picture of of Spain. Never having been there, I haven't seen the sunny pictures and seconds houses first hand.

Have you ever considered that you might have an outdated picture in your mind of America?

Take for instance the fact that 99.9% of the world is trying to paint us as an Evil Empire trying to take over the world. OK. Fine. But. I'm sitting here in my house seeing this **** on the alphabet evening news. We are more evil than THE BOWELS OF HELL. Then. The very next story IS how illegal immigration is sucking the financial strength out of this country and it's all Pres. Bush & the Republicans fault.

We're so ****ing damn evil that I suppose we suck their asses in here just so we can torture, abuse and put panties on their heads, in secret of course. No one lives to tell about it.

PrimBabUB · 03-28-07, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra

Italy is the real "lagger", they are declining in all ways, they have no direction anymore. Italy used to be a great country in the social and cultural forefront, but the last centuries Italy has seen one of the biggest declines of any country in the world, economically, socially, culturally and politically. Italy seriously need to find their direction again and become what it used to be.

Perhaps the reason you feel this way is because Italy appears to be an ally of the US. You always seem to want to run down any news of anyone that supports us.

PrimBabUB · 03-28-07, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Vader

Spoken like a clueless european who has never lived in America. As usual, nobody in Europe, except for a few well educated Brits, seems to have a clue what is really going on in America.

Opps. I really hate to correct you but MZ lived in so. Fla. for six months and is now an expert in his own mind about America.

PrimBabUB · 03-28-07, 10:09 PM

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Ahahahahahahahahaaha. Thats really funny. This must be the funniest quote of the day. "The racism in America is nowhere near the levels of Europe", maybe you still have the second world war in your head? Racism in Europe is about the same as in the US, but instead of being spread over the whole south, its spread in different countries, some countries have strong racists tendencies, other have none.

You probably know, but I have to remind you that even AFTER the racism of the second world war, negroes in the US still had to sit on the back of the busses, in different sections of the cafes and public places, and all live in the same areas.
The racism in America is very widespread, especially in the south, but its also changing, before it was the blacks who had all the focus, now its the blacks but especially the Muslims and arabs. All countries have the "far right", yeah? This is especially noticeable in Italy for example, and very extreme, but not so noticeable in Germany for example. Racism in Europe is mostly focused in the Benelux countries these days, and Italy indeed. I am sure that in both Europe and America there is well hidden racism too, but this is not noticable But all in all, its about equal, just a bit differently divided.

I've read your comment several times to try and make sense of it. You apprear to be quite upset and babbling. But here goes.........

We had our period of time adjusting to a new way of thinking and we have acheived it. No where in America does anyone sit in the back of a bus unless, of course, it is by choice.

Vader · 03-28-07, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra

Well, I actually lived in the US 6 months..

Ok. How much did you learn about life in America in 6 months?

PrimBabUB · 03-28-07, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra

Yes you did. There was no such violence as there is now under Saddam. Violence was severely punished, thus almost non existing.

So what do you call the violence inflicted by Saddam and his two little boys? Or are you in a state of denial that 20% of the population of Iraq was abusing and using the other 80% percent of the country?

Vader · 03-28-07, 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra

Yes you did. There was no such violence as there is now under Saddam. Violence was severely punished, thus almost non existing.

The punishment was violence in and of itself; therefore, the violence was there the entire time. Don't even attempt to say otherwise because doing so will make yourself look foolish.

Furthermore, the coalition did not cause the rift between the Shiites and the Sunnis; we didn't make them kill eachother and we are not responsible for the sectarian violence two groups of fanatics visit upon themselves.

In terms of sheer responsibility for death and destruction, the hands down winner is Nazi Germany. The Germans wiped out nearly 20 million people durring World War II.

As such, european nations have more blood than most on their hands, which, in my view, leaves you aboslutelty no room to talk.

PrimBabUB · 03-28-07, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Vader

The punishment was violence in and of itself; therefore, the violence was there the entire time. Don't even attempt to say otherwise because doing so will make yourself look foolish.

Furthermore, the coalition did not cause the rift between the Shiites and the Sunnis; we didn't make them kill eachother and we are not responsible for the sectarian violence two groups of fanatics visit upon themselves.

In terms of sheer responsibility for death and destruction, the hands down winner is Nazi Germany. The Germans wiped out nearly 20 million people durring World War II.

As such, european nations have more blood than most on their hands, which, in my view, leaves you aboslutelty no room to talk.

Well, now. You go........