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Old 03-26-07, 01:02 PM   #201
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Tsk....tsk....tsk......calling me ignorant doesn't make you look very nice now does it? Reafirms what I think about Euopeans.

Based on your theory of being an expert I'd say quite a few Americans could claim they were an expert on Europe. Not only did they live there but they died in mass there saving little Euroweenie's countries for them. Today we see their ungratefullness.
You are clearly ingorant for ignoring what I actually said and thinking I think I know all about America JUST from living in Florida for 6 months. First of all I dont claim to be an expert, I just dont like what I am seeing from your country at the moment, secondly I didnt proclaim myself expert and thirdly my opinion about the US is based on more than my 6 months in Florida. If you still go on with your claims about me and what I base things on after reading this, you ARE ignorant.
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Old 03-26-07, 01:10 PM   #202
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Has anything come about this yet? Has the EU and the UN moved to have sanctions placed on America? Perhaps they've managed to build a military strong enough to touch an American beach to make us pay for our "evil" presence?

I always get a kick out of it when the poodles are barking. They seem to know everything about us, while we simply mind our own business about them. They seem to have this fantasy that they should dictate to us how we should live and what we are to do with our military (Left in reserve to aid white Europeans when they have their crisis.') They yap at us all day, while jumping up and down for that biscuit. Which is why yapping is all they will ever do. Given the 20th century, they know that they need us more than we ever needed them. What would be justice here would be if we simply decided to turn our backs after their final temper tantrum.
Why should they? Diplomatic pressure is the first step. We are not Americans, we dont go to war first then start diplomatic and intelligence efforts. America is not evil, dont misunderstand everything I say for debates sake, I am just barking at America, because Americans fail to do it themselves.

Someone has to bark at America, when they are so uncritical of themselves, better this be Europeans who can actually put measure against America and have a long relationship than Africa who have neither. Why do you mind your own business about Europe? If you have anything to say we will be happy to hear it, the US are our friend, we listen to them. But no, trying to tell Americans something is like telling someone in denial something, patriotism has taken completely control of any realism and critical thinking in the US, this is a shame.

Ok, there you go about world war and how Europe needs you again, bla bla. yes sure, thanks for the world war stuff. How long do you ask us to be have our greatfulness to America as our first agenda? Why should we not bark when America is dissapearing into a state Germany was before the second world war?
Well, we did need you during the wars, but the world has changed, Europe and the US will remain allies for all foreseeable future, but you better starts listening or your country will ruin itself without any terrorism and whatever you are preoccupied with all the time.

Dont you understand that I am barking because I dont want to see America ruin itself? Dont you think I am barking because I like America? I dont want it to change and become some kind of modern nazi state, I dont want to see what your country has built the last 400 years be ruined by foolish leadership. Patiotism or not, the citizens of the US better get critical of their governance or else ruin is inevitable.
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I just dont like what I am seeing from your country at the moment,
........which has been my un-answered point all along. If the EU is so great and on the rise, why do you care so much about what we do in my country?

Strange how little Americans bat an eye towards Europe, but all it takes is for a screw to fall out of the American machine and Europe is churning out the polls.
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Old 03-26-07, 01:14 PM   #204
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........which has been my un-answered point all along. If the EU is so great and on the rise, why do you care so much about what we do in my country?

Strange how little Americans bat an eye towards Europe, but all it takes is for a screw to fall out of the American machine and Europe is churning out the polls.
Dont you understand that I LIKE America? If your child is on a bad path, you tell him and try to get him on the right path, right? You dont just ignore it and let your child fall further into bad directions.
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Old 03-26-07, 01:19 PM   #205
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Patiotism or not, the citizens of the US better get critical of their governance or else ruin is inevitable.
This is true of all government.
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This is true of all government.
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Dont you understand that I LIKE America? If your child is on a bad path, you tell him and try to get him on the right path, right? You dont just ignore it and let your child fall further into bad directions.
no condescension there
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Why should they? Diplomatic pressure is the first step. We are not Americans, we dont go to war first then start diplomatic and intelligence efforts. America is not evil, dont misunderstand everything I say for debates sake, I am just barking at America, because Americans fail to do it themselves.

Someone has to bark at America, when they are so uncritical of themselves, better this be Europeans who can actually put measure against America and have a long relationship than Africa who have neither. Why do you mind your own business about Europe? If you have anything to say we will be happy to hear it, the US are our friend, we listen to them. But no, trying to tell Americans something is like telling someone in denial something, patriotism has taken completely control of any realism and critical thinking in the US, this is a shame.

Ok, there you go about world war and how Europe needs you again, bla bla. yes sure, thanks for the world war stuff. How long do you ask us to be have our greatfulness to America as our first agenda? Why should we not bark when America is dissapearing into a state Germany was before the second world war?
Well, we did need you during the wars, but the world has changed, Europe and the US will remain allies for all foreseeable future, but you better starts listening or your country will ruin itself without any terrorism and whatever you are preoccupied with all the time.

Dont you understand that I am barking because I dont want to see America ruin itself? Dont you think I am barking because I like America? I dont want it to change and become some kind of modern nazi state, I dont want to see what your country has built the last 400 years be ruined by foolish leadership. Patiotism or not, the citizens of the US better get critical of their governance or else ruin is inevitable.
there you have it dems
right from max's keyboards
there is no dissention in America
we are all behind bush 100% and following him blindly
thank so much for pointing ti out to us
maybe you can put this on YouTube so more people can see it and there might be some dissention amongst the population
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Why do you mind your own business about Europe?
Because we simply do not pretend to assume to matter in your affairs or you simply don't matter on the international stage. After being given enough time to nurse your wounds from two World Wars on your continent, you have not emerged as a strong ally or a trusted "friend." France and Germany has emerged as pretend pacifists who have so far only been able to discuss global suffering and point at it and to exhaustively talk yourselves into embarrassing defiances by Tehran's Mullahs and their puppet as they struggle to maintina yesterday's vision of statescraft.

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But no, trying to tell Americans something is like telling someone in denial something, patriotism has taken completely control of any realism and critical thinking in the US, this is a shame.
Actually, hearing it from the continent that perfected genocide and ethnic cleansings and are entirely absent from their former colonies having washed their hands of them, is what we dismiss. We know our faults and we have constantly picked OURSELVES up over the centuries, which is why we continue to progress faster than any country in history. We will continue.

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Ok, there you go about world war and how Europe needs you again, bla bla.
Oh no..no...no....no. Europe needs us still and will need us in the future. America could easily withdraw all forces and isolate within our borders. And after a decade or two, we will have recovered from our break with the international community and again become self sufficient. We have proven time and again that when we are determined we are resilliant and agile. But Europe is in close proximity of these terrorist nations. You are receiving immigrants who do not want to belong to Western societies, yet don't want to exist in the failed environments of their birth nations. Your laws do not make it easy for those who are willing to assimilate and the worse the situation gets the worse the racism and bigotry will get.

And Europe does not have a good track record for behaving rationally in a crisis. The only question will be whose side will we be on? Will it be the Europeans who are terrorized or the Muslim immigrants who are persecuted? Or will we simply stand between?

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Dont you understand that I am barking because I dont want to see America ruin itself?
No. America goes through Presidents like the French go through cheese. We have a swinging door government on every level. America is in no danger of becoming anything other than what we want.

And given your posts, I think you simply need to bash America.
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If your child is on a bad path, you tell him and try to get him on the right path, right? You dont just ignore it and let your child fall further into bad directions.
These are my words. But actually, it is Britian that should be reflecting on us as proud parents instead of with disgust. And continetal Europe has always held us with resentment. But many of us see continental Europe traveling into a bad direction and as long as the mood of the EU is dictated by French and German voices, it will travel it quite blindly...until it's looking for America to do something about local unrest. And given their dance with Ahmenadejad, something worse.

You read this month's Economists? There's a good piece called Europe's Mid-Life Crisis.
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