Originally Posted by Cephus

I go strictly where the evidence leads. If someone managed to produce convincing evidence that George W. Bush was the reincarnated Jesus, I wouldn't like it, but I'd have no choice but to accept it. Belief, in and of itself, means nothing. Millions of kids believe in Santa Claus, it doesn't make Santa real.

Originally Posted by dragonslayer

Your assessment of being a Moslem is interesting. It is obviously pure bigotry and iqnorance. You can order a Koran from Amazon and then you can read it.

I don't know why you obviously hate Moslems so much. Yet, that is your decision and perogative. Have fun hating. I know a lot of right winger seem to enjoy hating. What else can you hate, how about Democrats, Conservatives, the poor, Americans, Blacks, the French, the Italians, the Chinese, Mexicans, Venezuelans, Russians, the Welsh, the Scotts, the English. Wow I have opened up world of possibilities of people for you to hate. Have fun.

Originally Posted by Lachean

Where do you get this stuff? Atheism makes no attempt at all to answer such questions.

Originally Posted by Lachean

Where do you get this stuff? Atheism makes no attempt at all to answer such questions.



Actually I addressed it in post 134.



Actually, that is what is being addressed here. Because I am an atheist, in that I don't believe in a god. Most atheists believe as I do, you have a differing definition, one that doesn't care to make the distinction, and you lump both groups together.

My point is getting you to understand that your label doesn't apply to the community, and more importantly, these semantics don't matter. For the sake of argument we can use your definitions, or just say "people who don't believe that there is a god" and "people who say there is no god" just to proceed.



Someone obviously can't follow conversation. Which is remarkable considering you insist on putting all your "points" into individual posts, instead of one point by point rebuttal.

Heres how the conversation went:
I said "Micro - Our parents conceived us."
You said "Atheism does not assert that man was put on this Earth because our parents conceived us. Our parents conceiving us happens after man's existence happens."
I explained that "Second of all, I SAID MICRO, as in our individual reasons for being here, which is our parents."

Then you proceeded by calling my point irrelevant, then confusing the conversation with "the (non)existence of god" when we were obviously talking about the atheist's answers to your questions.

I used the word MICRO because I was talking about our individual reason for having been put here. I used that term because there was also a macro answer. Do I have to define micro and macro for you too, because I am going to assume all this went over your head (again.)



Saying that you did a google search isn't providing a source. How about you try citing the OED or Webster, then saying that you've cited a source for your definition. Not that it would matter, I've already conceded your bull**** semantic argument just for the sake of moving forward, now address the point.

I don't claim to speak for atheists, but your label doesn't represent what Atheists actually believe (or should I say, disbelieve.) I would rather you either use more accurate working (strong vs weak atheism for example) or stop lumping people who think different things into the same group. Its hard to talk about my position when you either misrepresent it, or tell me that I'm not an atheist.



See ya then, perhaps when you return you wont be so hung up on the semantics, and actually discuss where we disagree.

For example; How are you going to resolve your failure to address the distinction between "I dont believe" and "I believe there is no." Are you going to continue to lump these two under the same word, or are you saying that the former are agnostics?

If so, why must I be obligated to be an agnostic about the multitude of things that don't exist (fairy tales, gods, flying spaghetti monsters, easter bunnies, celestial teapots?)

And also, by that same token; Are you an atheist in respect to every other god? Or are you an agnostic, by your definition? How about leprechauns? Are you an a-unicornist?

Originally Posted by Jerry

The Right Religion is not The Left.

Originally Posted by dragonslayer

Most Democrats are christian, I am not so sure of Republicans
--Just Kidding-- I bet that even some Catholics are Republicans.

Despite what Neocons want you to believe even some of them are christians. The Right See acting like a christian as being weak.

Originally Posted by dragonslayer

Most Democrats are christian, I am not so sure of Republicans
--Just Kidding-- I bet that even some Catholics are Republicans.

Despite what Neocons want you to believe even some of them are christians. The Right See acting like a christian as being weak.