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Old 02-27-07, 10:29 PM   #61
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Re: 'Immigration' game at NYU crosses line, students say

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First off you are making assumptions, some of those illegals are hardworking but some aren't some are here to do harm and they do do harm.
That's with everyone, but don't let a minority ruin it for the majority who are a hardworking backbone of the American economy.

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As Tallolou said the jails are full,
Great to see you can make stereotypes. Of course there are immigrants in jail. Pretty hard not to when 85% of those frisked are minorities often in immigrant communities.

Its the system stupid, not the people. Blacks and Latinos, in particular, are targetted by the system. They live in the toughest communities because they get the least opportunities. It makes it easier for the cops to watch them if their in one community.

That's why the excuses the NYPD put out for their racist tactic of frisking people is that they were in "high crimes areas."

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the ER's are full
Oh no, no, no. See regular American's like me cannot even afford to go to the doctor. How can some one without papers people able to see one?

This is a silly joke. Unfortunatly, the social services in this country are near non-exsistant and are really for citizens only.

Getting welfare or things like food stamps and **** is not something where you just walk in and they give it too you. No, you need to bring identification, receipts, etc... all kinds of stuff like that.

As I've said, Immigrants contribute FAR more than they consume in services.

According to this source, Immigrants pump $$$ 20 billion dollars into Nevada's economy

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Immigrant Hispanics pump as much as $20 billion into Nevada’s economy a year, contributing to the vitality of the nation’s fastest growing state, a report released Monday shows.
Minnesota is a similiar situation

In texas the same is true. Even though they use some services, they pay it all back AND MORE

The list could go on and on.



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. A thief can be as hardworking as he likes but he's still a thief.
You must be refering to the national government, not immigrants right?


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They check for contagious diseases. Tb which had previously been eradicated from this country is on the rise and it can KILL.
Oh yes that is ****ing wonderful. Blame that on the immigrants right? Are you serious?

That is a low blow. It is like scapgoating jews for Germany's problems.


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Why should any American die from TB? They shouldn't', there is no reason for anyone in this country to get TB. It's a horrible disease and it's a terrible way to die. And further more if the INS does find TB, they do not force the immigrant to leave but they do get them to treatments centers immediately to save their life.
Exactly. Its a treatable diesease. If we had a healthcare system that met the needs of the people not profits of several pharmacutical companies, we would be talking about this.

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They check for any criminal background, now if an immigrant has minor crimes, (petty theft etc) that does not affect them, if however they are murderers molesters, rapists then they are denied and rightly so, we have enough of our homegrown rapists and murderers to go around. Why is it so bad to check for a history of felonious offenses?
I hope you know that only educated and wealthy are allow to jut immigrate here legally.

The reason they are coming here "illegally" in the first place is because they can't get here legally.

As for murderers, they are in jail in the country they are from.

The mexican criminal justice system, for example, is brutally harsh. I have family living in Mexico and large undefined sentences are given for petty crimes like shoplifting.

You are simply offering silly myths. Murderers and rapists do not just "run amock" freely on this planet.

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ANYBODY can get a greencard
Not really.
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I hope you know that only educated and wealthy are allow to jut immigrate here legally.
Why would we want anything less , you thug / thief ?

I reckon we can grow all we need of the other kind locally.
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Re: 'Immigration' game at NYU crosses line, students say

LeftyHenry.

I have the distinct impression that this debate could go on for days without you changing your mind.

I must tell you that all of the information/points of view you have given supporting your position appear to me as illogical, inaccurate, and in some cases, delusional.

I must also state that all of the information/evidence/points of view given against your position appear to me as logical, accurate, rational, and true.

I was prepared to possibly agree with your position, if I was given enough reason too. Instead, you have given me reason to believe the other side.
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Old 02-28-07, 05:28 PM   #64
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LeftyHenry.

I have the distinct impression that this debate could go on for days without you changing your mind.

I must tell you that all of the information/points of view you have given supporting your position appear to me as illogical, inaccurate, and in some cases, delusional.

I must also state that all of the information/evidence/points of view given against your position appear to me as logical, accurate, rational, and true.

I was prepared to possibly agree with your position, if I was given enough reason too. Instead, you have given me reason to believe the other side.
Are you joking????

That is hilarious!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You should do stand up. I case, you are a complete moron, and did mean this post seriously, please point to ONE SHREAD OF EVIDENCE contradicting the evidence I provided in my last post posted, by my opposition then I will begin to take this troll post semi-seriously.

Instead of providing a principled arguement you post this? Can posts be unthanked

because in the 1 year + I have been at Debate Politics I have NEVER seen a worse post than the one you sir, have just posted.
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Old 02-28-07, 05:32 PM   #65
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Why would we want anything less , you thug / thief ?
Because they are doing jobs for low pay that Americans are rejecting. They are actually keeping those type of jobs here in America competitive.
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Because they are doing jobs for low pay that Americans are rejecting. They are actually keeping those type of jobs here in America competitive.
Have you seen an American reject a job? Really, they say this all the time. Give me the names of the Americans who've rejected those jobs.
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Have you seen an American reject a job? Really, they say this all the time. Give me the names of the Americans who've rejected those jobs.
I'm from Cali. I've yet to see a single American person selling oranges on the intesections anywhere in L.A. County. I'm not saying there aren't any. I'm just saying. The American Orange Seller is a dying breed....
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I'm from Cali. I've yet to see a single American person selling oranges on the intesections anywhere in L.A. County. I'm not saying there aren't any. I'm just saying. The American Orange Seller is a dying breed....
Ahh okay, but I just can't believe them when they say that Americans won't do those jobs. I mean, what about the homeless people? They should deffinately take priority over illegals, but I bet they are the ones who are rejected, not the other way around.
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Because they are doing jobs for low pay that Americans are rejecting. They are actually keeping those type of jobs here in America competitive.
You apparently missed the point, you theif.

I don't want the other country's uneducated coming into my country at all.

Your complaint was that we only accept educated and wealthy. It is a foolish complaint, and the policy is a smart one. I reiterate, why would we want them UNLESS they had some education and wealth to bring to the table ?
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