The real Media Bias - Page 3

ban.the.electoral.college · 08-30-05, 03:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Stu Ghatze

You are hilarious? You said, " We've proved you wrong"? Who is "we", perhaps the fox guarding the hen-house?

When roughly 78% of all national newspeople interviewed as they have been in the past;.. admit to have liberal leanings in their politics, it is NO phantom!

The blind might be blind, ..but they are not also deaf. Its easy to see, hear, & how the news is presented, & it sure as hell ain't independent.

Kind of reaks of "internationalist" flair. Gee, it just must be co-incidental, huh?

You've missed weeks of debating this topic. And you suddenly arrive on the scene acting as if you know everything, when in fact you are only insulting your own intelligence. I told you to use the search function to read all the posts of several threads on this topic before you make yourself look more foolish. Perhaps, I was asking for too much. So, suit yourself. I don't have time to bring you up to speed. I would hope you might be able to do that on your own.

cnredd · 08-30-05, 03:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stu Ghatze

You are hilarious? You said, " We've proved you wrong"? Who is "we", perhaps the fox guarding the hen-house?

When roughly 78% of all national newspeople interviewed as they have been in the past;.. admit to have liberal leanings in their politics, it is NO phantom!

The blind might be blind, ..but they are not also deaf. Its easy to see, hear, & how the news is presented, & it sure as hell ain't independent.

Kind of reaks of "internationalist" flair. Gee, it just must be co-incidental, huh?

Lets see how is the message reported: Bush is evil, Bush is racist, Bush lied, America is evil, Bush, Cheney & Halliburton, Bush stole election, Bush owns Diebold voting machines, Christians are evil, Sympathy for terrorists, justification for Terrorists, America uses torture??

On & on, ..& Al jazeera has nothing on them!

I have already provided the most recent facts on Liberal Bias from a non-partisan survey...source included for further reading...

Located in the thread..."Polls -The Great Myth... "Liberal Media Bias"...Post #2

Have at it!

freethought6t9 · 08-30-05, 06:36 AM

eah, but as I said then your data is incomplete, it makes no reference to economic policies, or the journalists reactions to them. And then of course there is the fact that this is irrelevant, who do you think is in charge? The journalists, who are assigned stories (for the most part), or the editors (who assign and edit the journalists stories) or the owners (who hires and fires anyone they want, and makes sure the journalists and editors don't damage the corporate interests of the parent). Read the article poswted by skilmatic if you don't want to take my word for it, or "Manufacturing Consent" by Chomsky and Herman if you want to see where the real biases of the media lie.

Let me give you a good example of what Chomsky and Herman demonstrate with their propaganda model. When comparing the deaths of a Polish priest named Popieluszko by Polish police in the 80's to the deaths of 4 American nuns by the El Salvadoran National Guard. Now Poland was a client state of the U.S.S.R. and the New York Times carried 78 articles on his death, made repeated attempts to link the crime to the Polish or Soviet government with no real evidence. In comparison the rape and murder of the four Americans had only 26 articles in the Times and the crime had strong ties to upper echelons of the Salvadoran government, a client of the U.S, this was never discussed in the Times, at least not in a fair way based on the evidence suggesting high placed orders to kill the women.

Now it seems to me that a liberally biased, American hating paper would have largely ignored activities in the Eastern Bloc and incessantly banged on about the four women, in fact this crime deserved as much attention as the Polish, both were brutal and sadistic, and while grisly, detailed accounts of the state of Popieluszko's body were readily available whereas accounts of the finding of the four Americans was brief and perfunctory.

What we have here is an example of the U.S. media being extremely servilient to the U.S. Government, but don't take my word for it, read the book, there are many other factors and biases at work just in regard to these stories, there is a hell of a lot of evidence I've missed out, and all of it is damning.

Youve Got To Be Kidding! · 08-30-05, 09:19 AM

Are you buying these downloads or how you getting em. Id like to watch these myself.

ban.the.electoral.college · 08-30-05, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Youve Got To Be Kidding!

Are you buying these downloads or how you getting em. Id like to watch these myself.

Netflix carries 'Manufacturing Consent' and several other Naom Chomsky documentaries. http://www.netflix.com - They operate in the U.S., though so if you live outside the U.S., Amazon.com should be able to get them out to you. Although, that would entail a purchase.

I think freethought6t9 may have an alternative way of obtaining them, as well. Not sure, though.

freethought6t9 · 08-31-05, 07:25 AM

That anecdote came from the book; Manufacturing Consent: The Political Economy of the Mass Media by Noam Chomsky and Edward S. Herman.

freethought6t9 · 08-31-05, 07:27 AM

And yeah, I do have an 'alternative' way of obtaining documentaries,