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Old 01-19-07, 12:56 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Hawking warns: We must recognise the catastrophic dangers of climate change

From a figure whose genius ranks right up there with Albert Einstein, and who is probably the greatest physicist of the latter 20th and 21 century:

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Climate change stands alongside the use of nuclear weapons as one of the greatest threats posed to the future of the world,
As Steven Hawking said those words, other scientists were moving the doomsday clock up to 5 minutes before midnight.

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"As in past deliberations, we have examined other human-made threats to civilisation. We have concluded the dangers posed by climate change are nearly as dire as those posed by nuclear weapons. The effects may be less dramatic in the short term than the destruction that could be wrought by nuclear explosions, but over the next three to four decades climate change could cause drastic harm."
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Old 01-19-07, 01:23 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Hawking warns: We must recognise the catastrophic dangers of climate change

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From a figure whose genius ranks right up there with Albert Einstein, and who is probably the greatest physicist of the latter 20th and 21 century:



As Steven Hawking said those words, other scientists were moving the doomsday clock up to 5 minutes before midnight.



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Climate change is a far more serious threat than many ppl think. This is not chicken little crying the sky is falling, this is the real deal and it would indeed effect everyone.
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Old 01-19-07, 04:22 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Re: Hawking warns: We must recognise the catastrophic dangers of climate change

Nothing in Nature stands still, nature itself is in a constantly change mode.
It is true that mankinds use of fossil fuels may be adding to the problems affecting change as caused by nature, as for instance, the amount of toxic material emitted from a volcano or the amount of gas released due to a shifting of the tectonic plates.
Simply put mankind and all those scientists, that put forward the theory that mankind is solely responsible are doing so, because it sells their various tomes on this subject to the uninformed and ill educated masses, who will believe the words of almost anyone with a few letters after their names.
Having said that, we have not the slightest idea as to what the substantial amount of open air testing of nuclear weapons has done, nor do we know what effect the detonation of nuclear bombs over Japan will or have had on the planets weather, worse still, the so called Chernobyl incident which released well over 100 times the quantity of radiation over a far longer period of time than did those bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki ever did.
Mankind will almost certainly be blamed for whatever climate change occurs, to some degree the release of all the various toxic gases that man has and continues to release will have some effect.
Certainly nature will also play it's role, can mankind be blamed for when a volcano erupts?
The so called ring of fire around the pacific rim is almost certainly in a contunuous state of action, because we are unable to observe (directly sighted) eruptions that are constantly occuring, does not mean that they do not occur nor that they do not release gases (toxic) into the atmosphere as well as acids into the ocean.
Hawking is undoubtedly a genius in his field, but he is also an author who wants to supplement his retiement pension with additional revenue from his prophetic and probably accurate books.
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Old 01-19-07, 05:45 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Re: Hawking warns: We must recognise the catastrophic dangers of climate change

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Climate change is a far more serious threat than many ppl think. This is not chicken little crying the sky is falling, this is the real deal and it would indeed effect everyone.
So if terrorists blow us up with nuclear weapons how does that affect the climate?
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Old 01-19-07, 06:13 PM   #5 (permalink)
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So if terrorists blow us up with nuclear weapons how does that affect the climate?
The key word you have here is "if". Climate change is not a matter of if, but "when".
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The key word you have here is "if". Climate change is not a matter of if, but "when".
And you think terrorists blowing us up is not a matter of when? With the dimwitocrats in charge?
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And you think terrorists blowing us up is not a matter of when? With the dimwitocrats in charge?
No, I don't think so, I do think that you're trying to derail the thread. It's clear that you don't acknowledge climate change to be a serious threat. the level to which terrorists compare to the damage and deaths as a result of climate change would be completely insignificant. How many ppl can a terrorist even with nukes kill? At most let's give them a million or two. How many deaths would result from climate change? square that.
Climate change is not some joke or moot point, this is a real serious threat with real serious consequences.
let me know when your through with high school adolescent name calling and irrelevancies and have some capacity to participate in a constructive debate on this topic. Then we will have something to discuss. Until then please control yourself of temper tantrums and postings of irrelevancies.
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No, I don't think so, I do think that you're trying to derail the thread. It's clear that you don't acknowledge climate change to be a serious threat. the level to which terrorists compare to the damage and deaths as a result of climate change would be completely insignificant. How many ppl can a terrorist even with nukes kill? At most let's give them a million or two. How many deaths would result from climate change? square that.
Climate change is not some joke or moot point, this is a real serious threat with real serious consequences.
let me know when your through with high school adolescent name calling and irrelevancies and have some capacity to participate in a constructive debate on this topic. Then we will have something to discuss. Until then please control yourself of temper tantrums and postings of irrelevancies.
Just do what I did. Put the flame baiter on ignore. And thanx for your input.
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Re: Hawking warns: We must recognise the catastrophic dangers of climate change

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How many ppl can a terrorist even with nukes kill? At most let's give them a million or two. How many deaths would result from climate change? square that.
1,000,000 X 1,000,000 = 1,000,000,000,000 people?
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Re: Hawking warns: We must recognise the catastrophic dangers of climate change

Climate changing is a fact, it has throughout the history of this planet been and is continuing to change.
My point is is this change caused by mankinds activities the major cause of the radical changes experienced recently, or merely an ongoing speeding up of nature's actions.
Neither you nor I know the answer to this, in my opinion neither do these (distinguished) scientists know? I somehow doubt it.
With regard to pollution killing our oceans, then I would agree that mankind has dumped and continues to dump so much of his waste into the seas, undoubtedly in my mind, mankind is the majority responsible for this.
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