Debate Politics Forums forum
Go Back   Debate Politics Forums > Debate Politics Forum > Archives



 
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 12-11-06, 10:57 PM   #11
User
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Last Seen: 12-29-06 01:13 PM
Posts: 17
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Lean: Liberal
Gender: Male
Re: Democrat Culture of Curruption Continues

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sammy2 View Post
Skip,

What are you moderate about? Just wondering given your side-bar thing.

What rational Republicans have been led astray for "a while now"? The "corrupt" republicans seem to step down or resign.
*******
High praise. sure they are corrput but when they are indicted or convicted they step down!

The "corrupt" Demoncrats are still sitting in congress because those who cannot think for themselves in this country tend to ignore their corruptness while yelling "bad republican" all the way to the voting booth. Perfect example is that Robert Byrd still sits in favor of the democrat party and Trent Lott gets in trouble at Strom Thurmans expense.

This is what I don't get. Gung-ho "democrats" who stand so high and mighty against anything resembling republican beliefs, yet don't even care to KNOW what their own party is full of. And SHOULD their little party get outed...there's always a "civil right" excuse following close behind.

Nancy Pelosi. Speaker of the House. Vineyard. Restaurant. Golf Course. Illegals. Unions. Look it up yourself. IF she weren't a democrat CNN, MSNBC, the NYT, the LA Times, etc., would not have let y'all been so clueless about her for so long.

Sammy
OK, for the record, although does anyone think some one using the word "demoncrats" would be a pragon f truth, teh Pelosi thing is another made up fiction to try and pull a "Oh yeah, but what about.." routine to distract from teh most corrupt congress in modern history.

Pelosi pays her workers better than teh local union.

Pelosi is PROHIBITED by law to let her workers unionize.

Im gonna guess mr "Demoncrat" got his info from either Rush limbaugh or Newsmax. A good friend of mine is a big rush limbaugh fan. Its impossible o debate politics because I spend most of the time just telling him the basic facts of a given issue. Hes so innoculated with right wing BS from the junkie.

the repubican led congress was the most corrupt and unethical congress in modern history. That is just an unsassailble fact.
Irished1975 is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Reddit!Stumble this Post!Google Bookmark this Post!
Old 12-12-06, 08:30 AM   #12
Sage

 
Stinger's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Last Seen: 12-28-09 10:31 AM
Location: The South
Posts: 14,043
Thanks: 191
Thanked 384 Times in 313 Posts
Lean: Very Conservative
Gender: Male
Re: Democrat Culture of Curruption Continues

Quote:
Originally Posted by Skip View Post
HAHAHAHAHAHHAHA

Sorry I'm still laughing at Stinger trying to argue that Republicans hold the higher moral ground.
Well then get your facts straight. I said ethical, although Dems trying to say they had the higher moral ground would just as laughable as my original statement.

Then I didn't make a declarative statement did I? I posed the question
" So who holds the higher ethical ground?"

And this over the matter of the Dems refusing to inact the same ethics rule the Rep's inacted on themselves, even after they promised to do so.

So I you are going to make assertions get your facts straight.

And it is noted you did not respond to the question.

Quote:
Rational Republicans agree that their party has been led astray for a while now,
I don't think you speak for Republicans at all.

Quote:
and yet you continue to pick out the examples of Democrat corruption and use them as the whole, whereas Republicans corruption IS the whole of that party.
While you continue to ignore the culture of corruption within the Dem party and the fact that Rep's get rid of their while the Dem's embrace thiers.
Stinger is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Reddit!Stumble this Post!Google Bookmark this Post!
Old 12-12-06, 08:38 AM   #13
Sage

 
Stinger's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Last Seen: 12-28-09 10:31 AM
Location: The South
Posts: 14,043
Thanks: 191
Thanked 384 Times in 313 Posts
Lean: Very Conservative
Gender: Male
Re: Democrat Culture of Curruption Continues

Quote:
Originally Posted by Irished1975 View Post
Pelosi pays her workers better than teh local union.

Pelosi is PROHIBITED by law to let her workers unionize.
Please elaborate, first since when to employers "allow" workers to unionize, and what law are you talking about? What laws prevent her from hiring United Farm Workers members instead of immigrants?
Stinger is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Reddit!Stumble this Post!Google Bookmark this Post!
Old 12-12-06, 12:45 PM   #14
User
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Last Seen: 12-29-06 01:13 PM
Posts: 17
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Lean: Liberal
Gender: Male
Re: Democrat Culture of Curruption Continues

Quote:
Originally Posted by Stinger View Post
Please elaborate, first since when to employers "allow" workers to unionize, and what law are you talking about? What laws prevent her from hiring United Farm Workers members instead of immigrants?
abc7news.com: Pelosi's Napa Business Scrutinized
Irished1975 is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Reddit!Stumble this Post!Google Bookmark this Post!
Old 12-12-06, 02:13 PM   #15
Educator
 
faithful_servant's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Last Seen: 09-22-08 09:48 AM
Location: Beautiful Central Oregon
Posts: 883
Thanks: 6
Thanked 25 Times in 15 Posts
Lean: Very Conservative
Gender: Male
Re: Democrat Culture of Curruption Continues

Quote:
Originally Posted by Irished1975 View Post
They sure did. Then were forced to change it back after public pressure. But when we talk of who has the "higher ethical ground" you must be joking. The 109th congress was the most corrupt in modern history. Duke Cunningham, Mark Foley, Tom Delay, Bob Ney, all resigning in dsigrace after being crinimally indicted or convicted. THE Abramoff scandal that is STILL unfolding. The width and breadth of their corruption is jaw dropping.
Why didn't you mention Jefferson and McKinney? They were the two worst offenders. Blatant misuse of thier position and power in the commission of felony acts and they stayed in office. Yet you will ignore them and focus on the people who were accused and then ,for the most part, did the right thing and stepped down. The ciorruption is there and it's on BOTH sides of the aisle (Abramoff is turing over some pretty high ranking Dems from what I've heard), but only ONE side is actually doing something about thier own problems. The Dems are doing nothing but accusing and denying any wrongdoing. They are doing doing NOTHING to address the problems within thier own party.
__________________
Our nation has not always lived up to its ideals, yet those ideals have never ceased to guide us. They expose our flaws, and lead us to mend them. We are the beneficiaries of the work of the generations before us and it is each generation's responsibility to continue that work. - Laura Bush
faithful_servant is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Reddit!Stumble this Post!Google Bookmark this Post!
Old 12-12-06, 02:16 PM   #16
Educator
 
faithful_servant's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Last Seen: 09-22-08 09:48 AM
Location: Beautiful Central Oregon
Posts: 883
Thanks: 6
Thanked 25 Times in 15 Posts
Lean: Very Conservative
Gender: Male
Re: Democrat Culture of Curruption Continues

Quote:
Originally Posted by Irished1975 View Post
Just Announced:

House Speaker-designate Nancy Pelosi (D-CA)is “expected to stand by her decision to permanently remove” Rep. William Jefferson (D-LA) from the powerful Ways and Means Committee, National Journal reports.


Think Progress » House Speaker-designate Nancy Pelosi (D-CA)
Oh YAY! Why isn't she going on record and to the press demanding that Jefferson RESIGN? He's still in office, when he should be waiting trial back in his house in NO (the one that he had the NG save instead of helping his constituents).
__________________
Our nation has not always lived up to its ideals, yet those ideals have never ceased to guide us. They expose our flaws, and lead us to mend them. We are the beneficiaries of the work of the generations before us and it is each generation's responsibility to continue that work. - Laura Bush
faithful_servant is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Reddit!Stumble this Post!Google Bookmark this Post!
Old 12-12-06, 02:50 PM   #17
Cynical Asshole

 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Last Seen: 03-16-10 12:51 PM
Location: NC
Posts: 8,676
Thanks: 2,374
Thanked 1,140 Times in 791 Posts
Lean: Centrist
Gender: Male

US Army:  Served honorably in the US Army 
Total Awards: 1

Re: Democrat Culture of Curruption Continues

Quote:
Originally Posted by faithful_servant View Post
Why didn't you mention Jefferson and McKinney? They were the two worst offenders. Blatant misuse of thier position and power in the commission of felony acts and they stayed in office. Yet you will ignore them and focus on the people who were accused and then ,for the most part, did the right thing and stepped down. The ciorruption is there and it's on BOTH sides of the aisle (Abramoff is turing over some pretty high ranking Democrats from what I've heard), but only ONE side is actually doing something about thier own problems. The Dems are doing nothing but accusing and denying any wrongdoing. They are doing doing NOTHING to address the problems within thier own party.
What was corrupt about McKinney again?

And what "Felony Act" did she commit?

And are you really talking out of your arse?
Caine is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Reddit!Stumble this Post!Google Bookmark this Post!
Old 12-12-06, 02:57 PM   #18
User
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Last Seen: 12-29-06 01:13 PM
Posts: 17
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Lean: Liberal
Gender: Male
Re: Democrat Culture of Curruption Continues

Quote:
Originally Posted by Caine View Post
What was corrupt about McKinney again?

And what "Felony Act" did she commit?

And are you really talking out of your arse?
Yeah pretty much. They can't defend the rampant corruption so they try desperatly to change the subject, even if all tehy can find is Cynthia Mckinney, a congresswoman who didnt even last past her own primary.

And Jefferson has yet to be indicted or charged with anything. THe democrats stripepd him of his committee assignment, and shunned him totaly during his election, even to the extent of not giving him a dime. They are waiting fo the investigation to finish. When the indictment finally does come down I expect him to get booted on his ***.

Of course this is all laughable compared with the endless onslaught of courrption from teh republicans. It seems every week another one is indicted or convcted of something, or in a coverup, or under investigation.

The most corrupt Congress in modern history. Simple fact.

Time to fumigate the place.
Irished1975 is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Reddit!Stumble this Post!Google Bookmark this Post!
Old 12-12-06, 02:59 PM   #19
Educator
 
faithful_servant's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Last Seen: 09-22-08 09:48 AM
Location: Beautiful Central Oregon
Posts: 883
Thanks: 6
Thanked 25 Times in 15 Posts
Lean: Very Conservative
Gender: Male
Re: Democrat Culture of Curruption Continues

Quote:
Originally Posted by Caine View Post
What was corrupt about McKinney again?

And what "Felony Act" did she commit?

And are you really talking out of your arse?
Just that little issue of assaulting an officer and then using her position and color of her skin to get out of it. Please try harder next time.
__________________
Our nation has not always lived up to its ideals, yet those ideals have never ceased to guide us. They expose our flaws, and lead us to mend them. We are the beneficiaries of the work of the generations before us and it is each generation's responsibility to continue that work. - Laura Bush
faithful_servant is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Reddit!Stumble this Post!Google Bookmark this Post!
Old 12-12-06, 05:02 PM   #20
Cynical Asshole

 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Last Seen: 03-16-10 12:51 PM
Location: NC
Posts: 8,676
Thanks: 2,374
Thanked 1,140 Times in 791 Posts
Lean: Centrist
Gender: Male

US Army:  Served honorably in the US Army 
Total Awards: 1

Re: Democrat Culture of Curruption Continues

Quote:
Originally Posted by faithful_servant View Post
Just that little issue of assaulting an officer and then using her position and color of her skin to get out of it. Please try harder next time.
And, can I ask how assaulting a police officer is a felony?
As a police officer myself, I sure WISH it was a felony....
No, why don't YOU try harder next time....

Also,

Although I do not condone assaulting a police officer, and I ESPECIALLY CANNOT STAND it when people try to throw up the race card. It is still debatable whether or not she knowingly attacked a police officer, and instead attacked someone who had grabbed her. Honestly I think she SHOULD have known that he was a police officer, and I think her actions afterwards were despicable.

Regardless this little "assault" hardly counts as "ethical corruption"

And, she didn't have the support of any of her fellow Democrats while she was fighting the media on this one, AND she lost the primary because of this incident, so, like you said.

TRY AGAIN!
Caine is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Reddit!Stumble this Post!Google Bookmark this Post!
 

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:14 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2010, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO
Debate Politics.com Copyright ©2004-2009
no new posts