Makhno

"Britain an Islamic country"

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Worrying to think that reports like this about the Muslim community draws so many parallels to the widespread anti-semitism that was prevalent in Nazi Germany upto the holocaust. It would seem Muslims are becoming the modern day scapegoats.

So is this any different than saying the Jews are secretly in control of the World, or some other nonsense?

blastula

The call for Sharia law by some Muslims in Britain is a fact. The Islamic terrorist bombings and sucide attacks for Islamic cause in many parts of the world are facts. The Islamic terrorist networks are bent on causing upmost terror and severe harm to innocent civilians in mass throughout the world, and this is a fact. The radical Islamic terrorist cells are scattered far and wide in many parts of the world and this is a fact. The Islamic extremists' call for jihad against the West and the infidels of the world is a fact.

There was no similar religious call of any kind by the Jews during Nazi Germany. The Jews were slaughtered by the Nazi for their economic success. They were law abiding citizens going about their own business but was slaughtered for simply being Jews. There never was and never is a terroristic attacks purposely targeting innocent civilians around the globe caused by the Jews. There never was a call for the equivalent of jihad by the Jews. To say the Jews are secretly in control of the world is just a myth, and not a fact.

You seems unable to discern facts from fictions. Therefore, your attempt at drawing parallel between the Muslims and the Jews is based on myth and not on fact.

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blastula

BTW, Mr. Arafat, I thought you were long dead. Anyway, please give your pioneering spirit in Islamic terrorism a RIP, will ya?

Makhno

That's not what I said. There are a million muslims in Britain, a country with a population of 60 million people. The fact that a minority of British muslism are calling for an Islamic state in Britain is irrelevant. So, when taking into account that Muslism are a minority, stories like this are indeed as abusurd as the beleif that Jews are in control of the World etc.

Makhno

Oh and btw here's an interesting one from The Sun:


icBerkshire - 'No religion was labelled' responsible for vandalism

The Sun Online - News: Brave heroes hounded out


Seems like the media that has a hard time discerning facts from fiction.

blastula

But you generalized local incidents into something else that involved the Jews in Nazi Germany.

Local incidents like those vandalism were events that either ocurred or did not ocurr. If the event did ocurr, the reports merely reported what the people said about the incidents. It could be true, or it could be speculation. But the reporters' job was to report the events and documented what the people there said. Meanwhile, I suppose investigation by the appropriate authority into the incidents was carried out as reported. If it turned out to be true that Muslims were involved in the vandalism, then the events related on by-standers were verified. If not it is condemned as unfounded rumors.

Also, the public concern over encroaching elements of sharia law into Britain's Muslim society is a legetimate concern. People have the right to voice concern and the papers certainly have the right to address the issue.

So, what's the big deal? Do you prefer they just suppress the news or public concern relating to Muslims if they occurred?

jfuh

Jews are in control of much of the wealth in the world, but so what? They're not blowing up trade towers nor are they threatening to annihilate huge populations simply because of varied beliefs.
Sure Israel has suppressed much of the palestinian populations, however hamas is a terrorist group that is wanting nothing better than the overthrowing of the democratically elected Lebanon government and side with Syria and Iran whom also openly call for the annihilation and destruction of all Jews - simply because they are Jews.
Neither are the Jews today running around like mad men performing primitive public beheadings or justifying the rape of women because they are "uncovered".
The fact of the matter is that though generalizations of ppls is unjustified towards individuals, it's not unjustified when it is a reality.
When I say that Blacks in this country have a high crime rate I'm not going to be walking around asking to be robbed if I were in a certain bad neighborhood of the cities. But then nor am I going to assume that the person walking down the street must be a criminal simply because s/he's black, however I am going to keep my alarm up. That's not anti-black or prejudice that's the realities.
There are more Islamic terrorists than there are of any other religion or culture. Admitingly they are a loud minority but they are far from irrelevant.
The fact that many Muslims support to some extent of these radicals cause does not benefit the greater population of good decent Muslim worshipers.

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Gardener

40% of British Muslims support the institutionalization of sharia law.

68% support the arrest and prosecution of anybody deemed to have insulted Islam.

45% say 911 was a conspiracy between the U.S.and Israel

25% support the London Bombings


Somebody who takes his screen name from a known terrorist thinks the reporting of the truth constitutes a program of bias against Muslims.

take it with a grain of salt.

Volker

The answers in this thread seem to support your theory so far, even though they are not coming from the UK. No one said, Islamophobia is a specific British problem. We have this problem, too, and obviously it exists in other continents.

The motivation of the people, who spread this kind of ideas, is probably the same in many cases. Some of these people, Gardener for instance, even use the original vocabulary sometimes, this is kinda traitorous then, you quickly realize, where their mindset originates from.

Makhno

The original article is talking about a developed independent Islamic court system. That's not what's happening. What's happening is Islamic communities are appointing individual arbiters to settle civil disputes on promise not to go through mainstream civil processes.