Top Democrat: Bring back the draft - Page 4

Morrow · 11-20-06, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Goobieman

For whatever reason, you seem to think that the only way to increase the size of the military is to have a draft.

Why do you think this?

In this case, where we need hundreds of thousands of more troops quickly, a draft is the only way. There are not hundreds of thousands of volunteers just standing by who can't get in. The US Army can't even meet its recruting goals.

Morrow · 11-20-06, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Trajan Octavian Titus

A) The military itself is against the draft.

B) The draft will insure that anti-war folks will be serving leading to a military with low morale not to mention soldiers who are more suited to working at burger king or not working at all than to be responsible for million dollar pieces of equipment.

C) A professional volunteer military is simply better than a draft military consisting of un-professional conscripted soldiers.

D) Thomas Jefferson didn't serve in the revolution, Benedict Arnold did, who was the greater Patriot?

A) I wonder what your source on this is. I've heard repeatedly that US commanders in Iraq have asked for one thing, more troops. They all want it, they have been asking for years not.

B) because being in an unwinnable war is good for morale...

C) That isn't true if the volunteer military can't perform its mission.

D) I'm not addressing the issue of patrotism.

cherokee · 11-20-06, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by KidRocks

No, I just don't have no stinking link, don't you believe me? Google it yourself if you don't believe me.

Here, I'll get you started... google, let's see, Vietnam, group racials of deaths, student deferments, proper proportions of minorities killed in Vietnam in relation to the whole.

Try one of those and see what pops up.

For Christs sake, do I have supervise your every move?

Here is your link dumbazz! maybe you should look around before you run your mouth..

Research - Statistical information about casualties of the Vietnam conflict

CACCF Record Counts by Race (as of 12/98)
Racial category titles are those used in the documentation created at the genesis of the file, ca. 1967
Race Number of Records
American Indian 226
Caucasian 50,120
Malayan 252
Mongolian 116
Negro 7,264
Unknown, Not Reported 215
Total 58,193

KidRocks · 11-20-06, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by cherokee

Here is your link dumbazz! maybe you should look around before you run your mouth..

Research - Statistical information about casualties of the Vietnam conflict

CACCF Record Counts by Race (as of 12/98)
Racial category titles are those used in the documentation created at the genesis of the file, ca. 1967
Race Number of Records
American Indian 226
Caucasian 50,120
Malayan 252
Mongolian 116
Negro 7,264
Unknown, Not Reported 215
Total 58,193

That's the most assinine link I've ever seen, are Hispanics considered Caucasians now?

Goobieman · 11-20-06, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Morrow

In this case, where we need hundreds of thousands of more troops quickly, a draft is the only way. There are not hundreds of thousands of volunteers just standing by who can't get in. The US Army can't even meet its recruting goals.

This is either a lie, or you not knowing any better. They have made their goals regularly for some time now.

In 1991 the military was twice the size it is now, across a smaller population base. Why can't we double the size of the military w/o a draft?

Goobieman · 11-20-06, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by KidRocks

That's the most assinine link I've ever seen, are Hispanics considered Caucasians now?

Still waiting for you to show that most deaths where blacks and hispanics.

Stinger · 11-20-06, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by KidRocks

President Bush got one and so did many, in fact, millions of Republican kids got out of serving in Vietnam or the draft because of student deferments, or so I hear. Most deferments were 'white' well to do kids while most of the dying in Vietnam were blacks, and Hispanics. That's a fact Jack.

Blacks were 12.5% of all causalities and they made up 11% of the general population. Whites were over 86%. Your arguement is falacious. You don't know Jack.

Millions of Democrat kids got student deferments and they were not issued based on race or political party and were ended before the war ended, recall Clintons famous letter when he lost his and had to submit to the draft lottery.

Stinger · 11-20-06, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by KidRocks

That's the most assinine link I've ever seen, are Hispanics considered Caucasians now?

That's the government records. Hspanics are caucasin.

cherokee · 11-20-06, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by KidRocks

That's the most assinine link I've ever seen, are Hispanics considered Caucasians now?

Its the National Archives

God you're soo dumb...

CurrentAffairs · 11-20-06, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by KidRocks

No, I just don't have no stinking link, don't you believe me? Google it yourself if you don't believe me.

Here, I'll get you started... google, let's see, Vietnam, group racials of deaths, student deferments, proper proportions of minorities killed in Vietnam in relation to the whole.

Try one of those and see what pops up.

For Christs sake, do I have supervise your every move?

Here's how the game works, kidrocks. You make an assertion, then it's your responsibility to provide the data....not mine.