gordontravels

Here's something you can't argue because there are the numbers to back it up.

The elite media (meaning ABC, CBS, NBC, MSNBC, CNN, CNNHN, CNBC, LA/NY TIMES, WASHINGTON POST) with the exception of the Fox News Channel will always and in over 90% of the stories, identify a conservative as a conservative. However, the label of liberal even for the likes of Nancy Pelosi, Barbara Boxer, Barney Frank or a Ted Kennedy IS NOT USED. Now I know that those who lean toward the liberal side don't care because I read the responses on this forum where it is said by the liberal leaning posters time and time again that they "don't care" about a miriad of political situations or discussions that are not favorable to the Liberal Democrats. But, if there are conservatives in our political landscape and they are identified as such in EVERY story by the media, why is the liberal label so obviously missing?

Here's a wonderful example: From todays New York Times front page:

(QUOTE) NEWS ANALYSIS
Republican Moderates in Senate Sense Intensifying Pressures
By SHERYL GAY STOLBERG
From the fight over John Bolton to the Social Security debate, G.O.P. moderates are caught in the middle as never before.(END QUOTE)



"Caught in the middle as never before"? That's what the very first paragraph says. I am going to ask you to go read this article and see if they tell you what these poor Republican Moderates are caught between. The only reference to other than a Democrat is to a Centrist Democrat. How many of those Centrist Democrats are on Capitol Hill do you think? How many Conservatives are on Capitol Hill? How many Liberals? Are there more Liberals than Centrist Democrats? Do you know? If you are a Liberal, or a Democrat, do you care?

These media outlets tell us that Senator Hillary Clinton is moving to the center in preparation for her run for President. May I ask? Where is she moving from? Conservative? Arch Conservative? Ultra Right Wing Conservative? Or just Democrat?

Personally I think that those who are purely Liberal or Conservative ruin the purpose of politics with intransigence. The New York Times is not Pro Bush. The New York Times is Anti Bush. Read this article, it's there now waiting for you. There have been studies about how the media uses the labels Conservative and Liberal and they show that the media uses them against the Conservatives and skips the Liberal Lable. It is Conservative Republican vs. Democrat. It is the occasional mention of the Democrat moving to the center but, from where. You will see the Right mentioned far more than the Left. You will see Right Wing but not Left. You will see the word Ultra or Arch for Conservative but not for Liberal. Since the Liberals can't win elections maybe they are extinct but, if the New York Times thinks Moderate Republicans are "caught in the middle", what's on the opposite side if the Conservatives are the only ones that they cite?

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flip2

You drive a great point. The media knows it has a liberal slant in its newsrooms and on its editing board. I would say editorial, but somehow editorials seem to slip into the news of the front pages.

At any rate, until the newsmanagers of newspapers and television stations get a major shakeup or TRULY DEDICATED journalists who want an unbiased, fair, and accurate job done by their reporters, you are always going to find more news outlets with a tilt towards the left. Open secret.

It's the consumer that must do something. And it's just not boycotting the newstation or the newspaper or magazine. These mediums depend on money. Money they get from sponsors, advertisements, major corporations. You boycott them en masse, e-mail the companies and stations en masse, sales go down, and the direction of the newsboard changes. But that just will not happen anytime soon, or until people are serious about doing something.

gordontravels

I can see the concept of a boycott working. You can see the basement ratings of news programs or specific liberal leaning programming at CBS, CNN, MSNBC or other liberal leaning outlets that tells you how the majority of viewers perceive what they are watching. Liberals will single out Fox News Channel as nothing but a right wing outlet while FNC out does all (ALL) of it's competitors in the ratings wars with not only numbers of viewers but multiples of those switching to it's programming.

A boycott of sponsors won't work because the vast majority (conspiarcy lol) aren't political and would even buy Chinese over American because they either don't care, don't read lables or don't mind that their government, our government has let our country go to the United Nations rather than the United States. I am neither liberal or conservative when I begin to read an article or listen to a broadcast but, I usually am one or the other by the time I finish.

Pacridge

Really? The last I heard it was FNC ratings that were tanking:

http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/ratings/fncs_2554_prime_downward_spiral_20939.asp

shuamort

14,900 from newsmax.com for conservative.
15,100 from newsmax.com for liberal.

Fox News:
"liberal" (1 - 30 of 59)
"conservative" (1 - 34 of 63)

NYTimes:
conservative / since 1996 returned 25755 articles.
liberal / since 1996 returned 15582 articles.

CBS News:
3834 for conservative
2082 for liberal

ABC News:
"conservative" (1 - 45 of 79)
"liberal" (1 - 30 of 82)

2004 Newspaper endorsements:

John Kerry Endorsements
by state, with link, date, and circulation if available

AZ: Arizona Daily Star (Tucson): 10/3; 109,592
CA: Contra Costa Times: 10/23; 182,682 (endorsed Bush in 2000)
CA: La Opinión (Spanish): (U)
CA: Los Angeles Daily News: 10/24; 200,387 (endorsed Bush in 2000)
CA: Merced Sun-Star: 17,247 (U)
CA: San Francisco Chronicle: 10/17; 501,135
CA: San Jose Mercury News: 10/17; 279,539
CA: Santa Cruz Sentinel: 10/21 (endorsed Bush in 2000)
CA: The Fresno Bee: 166,531
CA: The Modesto Bee: 10/17; 87,366
CA: The Press Democrat (Santa Rosa): 9/19; 89,384
CA: The Sacramento Bee: 10/17; 303,841
CA: Ventura County Star : 10/22; 96,571 (endorsed Bush in 2000)
CO: Daily Camera (Boulder): 10/17; 33,419 (endorsed Bush in 2000)
CT: The Day (New London): 9/26; 39,553 (endorsed Bush in 2000)
DC: The Washington Post: 10/24
FL: Bradenton Herald: 52,163 (endorsed Bush in 2000)
FL: Daytona Beach News-Journal: 10/17; 112,945
FL: Florida Today (Melbourne): 90,877
FL: Sarasota Herald Tribune: 10/24; 106,865
FL: South Florida Sun-Sentinel (Ft. Lauderdale): 10/17; 268,927
FL: St. Petersburg Times: 10/17; 358,502
FL: The Miami Herald: 10/17; 325,032
FL: The Orlando Sentinel: 10/24; 257,191 (1st Democrat endorsed in 40 years) (endorsed Bush in 2000)
FL: The Palm Beach Post: 10/17; 181,727
GA: The Atlanta Journal-Constitution : 10/9; 418,323 (endorsed Bush/Gore[1 ] in 2000)
GA: The Macon Telegraph: 10/24; 89,451 (U)
HI: Honolulu Advertiser: 10/19
HI: Honolulu Star-Bulletin: 10/27; 63,000
IA: The Hawk Eye (Burlington): 19,000
IA: Des Moines Register 10/24
IA: Iowa City Press-Citizen: 10/23, (endorsed Bush in 2000)
ID: Idaho Statesman: 10/24 (endorsed Bush in 2000)
IL: Chicago Sun-Times: 10/24; 486,936 (endorsed Bush in 2000)
IL: Daily Herald (Arlington Heights): 10/17; 150,794 (endorsed Bush in 2000)
KY: Lexington Herald-Leader: 10/17; 122,748
KY: The Courier-Journal (Louisville): 216,934
MA: The Boston Globe: 10/17; 452,109
MA: The Standard-Times (New Bedford): 361,317 (U)
ME: Bangor Daily News: 10/23 (endorsed Bush in 2000)
ME: Portland Press Herald: 10/10; 73,211
MI: Battle Creek Enquirer: 10/17 (U)
MI: Detroit Free Press: 10/4; 354,581
MI: Flint Journal: 10/24 (endorsed Bush in 2000)
MI: Lansing State Journal: 10/24
MI: Livingston Press-Argus (Howell): 10/24 (U)
MI: Muskegon Chronicle: 10/17
MI: Port Huron Times-Herald: 10/24 (U)
MI: The Argus-Press (Owosso): 11,438 (U)
MI: The Muskegon Chronicle: 46,505 (endorsed Bush in 2000)
MI: Traverse City Record-Eagle: 10/24 (U)
MN: Duluth News Tribune: 45,688 (U)
MN: Star Tribune (Minneapolis): 10/17; 377,058
MN: The Free Press (Mankato): 21,591 (U)
MO: Columbia Daily Tribune: 10/17; 18,874 (endorsed Bush in 2000)
MO: St. Louis Post-Dispatch: 10/10; 281,198
MO: The Kansas City Star: 10/17; 269,188
MT: Billings Gazette: 10/24 (endorsed Bush in 2000)
NC: Asheville Citizen-Times: 10/22; 155,591 (U)
NC: The Charlotte Observer: 10/17; 231,369
NC: The Daily Reflector (Greenville): 25,777 (U)
NC: Raleigh News & Observer: 10/24; 451,900-still verifying circ. (endorsed Gore in 2000)
ND: Grand Forks Herald: 10/17; 32,385
ND: The Bismarck Tribune: 10/24; 29,336 (U)
NJ: The Star-Ledger (Newark): 10/24; 407,945 (U)
NM: The Albuquerque Tribune: 10/12; 13,536 (endorsed Bush in 2000)
NV: Nevada Appeal (Carson City): 15,296 (U)
NY: The New York Times: 10/17; 1,133,763
NY: Rochester Democrat and Chronicle: 10/24; a Gannett paper
OH: Suburban News Publications:10/27; 287,051; chain of 22 suburban weeklies (never before endorsed presidential candidate)
OH: Akron Beacon Journal: 139,220
OH: Athens News: 10/18; 18,000
OH: Dayton Daily News: 10/17; 183,175
OH: Toledo Blade: 10/24; 184,244
OR: Daily Vanguard (Portland State University): 10/22
OR: East Oregonian (Pendleton): 10,236 (U)
OR: Mail Tribune (Medford): 10/17; 35,524 (U)
OR: Statesman Journal (Salem): 10/21; 56,298 (U)
OR: The Daily Astorian (Astoria): 8,429 (U)
OR: The Oregonian (Portland): 10/10; 342,040 (endorsed Bush in 2000)
OR: The Register-Guard (Eugene): 72,411
PA: Allentown Morning-Call: 10/24 (endorsed Bush in 2000)
PA: Centre Daily Times: 10/24 (U)
PA: Pittsburgh Post-Gazette: 10/24
PA: The Philadelphia Daily News: 6/16; 139,983
PA: The Philadelphia Inquirer: 10/10; 387,692
TN: The Jackson Sun: 35,561
TX: Citizen's Advocate Newspaper (Coppell) : 10/13 (U)
TX: The Lone Star Iconoclast (Crawford): 9/26 (endorsed Bush in 2000)
VA: The Roanoke Times: 10/17; 100,447 (U)
WA: Seattle Post-Intelligencer: 10/10; 150,901
WA: The Seattle Times: 9/9; 361,317 (endorsed Bush in 2000)
WA: The Star (Grand Coulee): 361,317 (U)
WA: Tri-City Herald (Kennewick, Pasco and Richland): 10/25 (endorsed Bush in 2000)
WI: Journal Times, Racine: 10/23; 29,264
WI: Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel: 10/28; 244,893 (declined to endorse in 2000)
WI: Wausau Daily Herald: 10/23; 22,757 (endorsed Bush in 2000)
WV: The Charleston Gazette: 10/19; 49,529

[1] The Atlanta Journal endorsed Bush on 10/19/2000 and the Atlanta Constitution endorsed Gore on 10/20/2000.


Other Notable Kerry Endorsements

Financial Times, Oct 25 [1][2]
New Yorker, Oct 25 - "For the first time in its 80-year history, the venerable New Yorker magazine has endorsed a presidential candidate, urging readers Monday to vote for Democrat John Kerry in next week's election. (AFP)" [3]
The Nation, Oct 21
The American Conservative, Nov issue, editors split endorsements (see note [4])
Rolling Stone, Nov. issue
The New Republic, Oct. 21
The Economist, Oct. 28, 2004. "With a heavy heart, we think American readers should vote for John Kerry on November 2nd." (endorsed Bush in 2000)

George W. Bush Endorsements
by state, with link, date, and circulation if available

AL: Mobile Register: 100,244
AZ: The Arizona Republic (Phoenix): 10/17; 466,926
CA: Long Beach Press-Telegram: 10/24
CA: The Press-Enterprise (Riverside): 191,802
CA: The Record (Stockton): 10/24; 62,139
CA: The Reporter (Vacaville): 10/24; 18,227
CA: The San Diego Union-Tribune: 10/17; 361,317
CO: Rocky Mountain News (Denver): 10/17; 286,004
CO: The Denver Post: 10/24; 288,937 (endorsed Gore in 2000)
Note: On 10/26 the Denver Post editors wrote: "More than 700 readers have given us their thoughts on Sunday's presidential endorsement, and they add up to a passionate dissent. [...] Every letter we received was critical of the Post endorsement; we publish a sampling here today." [5]
CO: The Pueblo Chieftain: 9/27; 52,208 (U)
FL: The Lakeland Ledger 10/22; 70,028
FL: The Ocala Star-Banner: 10/24; 48,069 (U)
GA: Savannah Morning News: 57,288
KY: Bowling Green Daily News: 10/25; 21,288 (U)
IA: Globe-Gazette (Mason City): 18,947 (U)
IL: Chicago Tribune: 10/17; 578,843
IL: The News-Gazette (Champaign-Urbana): 39,190 (U)
IL: Northwest Herald (Crystal Lake): 10/24 (U)
IL: The Pantagraph (Bloomington): 47,931
IN: The Indianapolis Star: 10/17; 253,778
MA: The Sun (Lowell): 361,317
MI: Macomb Daily (Mount Clemens): 10/24 (endorsed Gore in 2000)
MI: Midland Daily News: 10/24 (U)
MI: St. Joseph Herald-Palladium: 10/24 (U)
MI: The Grand Rapids Press: 10/17; 139,216
MI: The Oakland Press (Pontiac): 10/10; 65,484 (U)
NC: Fayetteville Observer: 10/23 (U)
NE: Omaha World-Herald: 197,627
NH: The Union Leader (Manchester): 361,317
NM: Carlsbad Current-Argus: 8,030
NM: Las Cruces Sun-News: 22,168
NV: Las Vegas Review-Journal: 9/12; 170,061
NY: The New York Sun: 18,000 (U)
OH: Cincinnati Enquirer (Gannett): 10/24; 182,176
OH: Cincinnati Post (Gannett): 10/24; 42,219
OH: The Advocate (Newark) (Gannett): 10/24; 22,217
OH: The Columbus Dispatch: 10/24; 371,551
OH: The Courier (Findlay): 22,319
OH: The News Journal (Mansfield) (Gannett):
OH: The Repository (Canton) (Copley Newspapers): 66,014
OH: The Times Reporter (New Philadelphia) (Copley Newspapers): 23,956 (U)
OK: Tulsa World: 361,317
OR: Daily Courier (Grants Pass): 10/24; 16,392 (U)
OR: The News-Review (Roseburg): 19,272 (U)
PA: The Express-Times (Easton): 10/24 (U)
PA: York Daily Record: 10/17; 361,317 (endorsed Gore in 2000)
TN: The Leaf-Chronicle (Clarksville): 22,057 (U)
TX: Amarillo Globe-News: 51,105
TX: El Paso Times: 74,278 (U)
TX: Fort Worth Star-Telegram: 247,167
TX: San Antonio Express-News: 252,889 10/17
TX: The Dallas Morning News: 10/17; 546,177
VA: Richmond Times-Dispatch: 191,732
VA: The Free Lance-Star (Fredericksburg): 47,866
WA: The Columbian (Vancouver): 51,498
WA: The Spokesman-Review (Spokane): 100,760
WI: The Appleton Post-Crescent: 10/24; 52,921 (endorsed Gore in 2000)
WI: Oshkosh Northwestern: 10/22; 21,243
WV: The Charleston Daily Mail: 10/30; 34,539

Declined to Endorse
by state, with link, date, and circulation if available
FL: Tampa Tribune: 10/17; 302,417 (endorsed Bush in 2000)
LA: The New Orleans Times-Picayune: 10/24; 253,610 (endorsed Bush in 2000)
MI: Detroit News: 10/24; 227,392 (endorsed Bush in 2000)
NC: Winston-Salem Journal: 10/17; 85,266 (endorsed Bush in 2000)
PA: The Harrisburg Patriot-News: 10/24; 152,153 (endorsed Bush in 2000)
TX: Bryan-College Station Eagle: 10/17; 25,693 (endorsed Bush in 2000)

Pacridge

I don't understand?

shuamort

Ooops, had to pare down to much to get the message to fit. I just went to their respective websites and did a search on the word. Those are the numbers of articles for each term.

gordontravels

And if you go to the Neilsen site you will find that FNC is number one in all catagories of viewers over like channels meaning CNN and MSNBC and also number one in increase of viewers over like numbers year over. Lexis Nexis: do your own search with liberal and conservative and you will see the bias in the lack of liberal label but:

IF YOU LEXIS NEXIS WITH "LIBERAL DEMOCRAT" AND THE TERM "CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICAN" THE NUMBERS FOR CONSERVATIVE IS SO HUGE AS TO MAKE YOU WONDER IF THERE ARE DEMOCRATS AT ALL.

Pacridge

Don't you need to subscribe to "Lexis" to use it?

Pacridge

I see. What do you think that means?