America's Christian conservatives are not much different than Islamist fundamentalism

jfuh · 10-23-06, 08:09 PM

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Gerhard Schroeder, the former German chancellor, has written in a new book that George W. Bush'sfrequent references to God in their meetings before the Iraq war had made him wary of Mr. Bush's political decisions. Mr. Schroeder also suggested that America's Christian conservatives are not much different than Islamists who impose their beliefs on entire nations.
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"Quite rightly, we criticize that in most Islamic states the role of religion in society and the secular character of the legal system are not clearly separated," he said. "But we haven't taken note as readily of the U.S. Christian fundamentalists and their interpretation of the Bible that show similar tendencies."

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FallingPianos · 10-23-06, 08:20 PM

the christian conservatives at least arent going around killing people.

jfuh · 10-23-06, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by star2589

the christian conservatives at least arent going around killing people.

No?
http://www.sullivan-county.com/news/mine/gods_name.htm
http://www.forceministries.com/
Same mentality, I can cite more if you want.

RightOfCenter · 10-23-06, 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by jfuh

No?
http://www.sullivan-county.com/news/mine/gods_name.htm
http://www.forceministries.com/
Same mentality, I can cite more if you want.

Alright, they aren't killing people in large numbers...yet.

jfuh · 10-24-06, 01:50 AM

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Originally Posted by RightOfCenter

Alright, they aren't killing people in large numbers...yet.

Same mentality of a superiority complex thinking that they are God's favored ppl and that the rest of humanity are ungrateful sinners that will burn in hell. More importantly that it is thier job to send them there.

FallingPianos · 10-24-06, 02:48 AM

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Originally Posted by jfuh

Same mentality of a superiority complex thinking that they are God's favored ppl and that the rest of humanity are ungrateful sinners that will burn in hell. More importantly that it is thier job to send them there.

I was with you until the bolded statement. while FCCs are a bitch to deal with when they involve themselves in politics, they aren't trying to send everyone else to hell. on the contrary, they are trying to spread their message so that the rest of us can go to heaven.

jfuh · 10-24-06, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by star2589

I was with you until the bolded statement. while FCCs are a bitch to deal with when they involve themselves in politics, they aren't trying to send everyone else to hell. on the contrary, they are trying to spread their message so that the rest of us can go to heaven.

They believe that everyone else is going to hell.
How many times do I see the group at the street corner preaching you're going to burn in hell?
Then we have the guys that take down buildings (Oklahoma) sending non-believers to hell. Or as that website I showed - taughting around guns and such waging thier bygone crusade.

Trajan Octavian Titus · 10-24-06, 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by jfuh

Then we have the guys that take down buildings (Oklahoma) sending non-believers to hell.

McVeigh wasn't an evangelical or a member of the Christain right, he was a meth smoking paranoid conspiracy theorist.

tecoyah · 10-25-06, 06:01 AM

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Originally Posted by star2589

the christian conservatives at least arent going around killing people.

George Bush is a Christian Conservative......does this point to State Sponsored Killing? And, if so, Does it not denote Christians are indeed.....Killing People?

"In Elusive Peace: Israel and the Arabs, a major three-part series on BBC TWO (at 9.00pm on Monday 10, Monday 17 and Monday 24 October), Abu Mazen, Palestinian Prime Minister, and Nabil Shaath, his Foreign Minister, describe their first meeting with President Bush in June 2003.

Nabil Shaath says: "President Bush said to all of us: 'I'm driven with a mission from God. God would tell me, "George, go and fight those terrorists in Afghanistan." And I did, and then God would tell me, "George, go and end the tyranny in Iraq …" And I did. And now, again, I feel God's words coming to me, "Go get the Palestinians their state and get the Israelis their security, and get peace in the Middle East." And by God I'm gonna do it.'"
http://www.bbc.co.uk/pressoffice/pre.../06/bush.shtml

That said....there is a profound difference between one man deciding to inflict death in Warfare.....and an entire sect of religion doing so as individuals.

FallingPianos · 10-25-06, 06:43 AM

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That said....there is a profound difference between one man deciding to inflict death in Warfare.....and an entire sect of religion doing so as individuals.

that was my point. you also have to consider who the targeted victems are.