September 11th conspiracy theories - Page 51

Chris_Morganti · 09-04-05, 08:38 AM

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It was the stuff the jet fuel lit on fire, and it didn't melt it it didn't have to it weakened it.

Well considering no fire in history has EVER destroyed a steel building, how do you figure a fire can weaken the steel enought to cause a collapse.

And of course you have to remember with the South Tower the fire didn't even spread to the other side of the building, it was only on one side.

Didga · 09-04-05, 08:48 AM

The whole building reduced to nothing but this pile of smoking remains. Steel columns 100mm thick ripped apart, no large pieces of concrete, desks, nothing but small pieces of steel, dust and smoke coming up from underground. No combination of jet fuel fire and plane impact damage brought down the the WTC towers, explosives were used.

Chris_Morganti · 09-04-05, 08:51 AM

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If fire can do what controlled demolition can, then why do people spend literally weeks planning and setting up demolitions when we can just use a fire?

Not even regular explosives could of brought down the WTC like that, fire must be pretty powerful!

With normal demolitons, there still are like pieces of concrete, all of the concrete isn't pulverized.

cnredd · 09-04-05, 08:57 AM

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Merged the thread "Why Did the Trade Center Skyscrapers Collapse?" into this one...Same subject...

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Trajan Octavian Titus · 09-05-05, 12:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris_Morganti

Popular Mechanics - The owner is the first cousin of the director of home land security.

I smell propaganda!

Popular Mechanics uses outright lies and stupid explanations, and calls in the opinions of so called "experts"

Hang on I'll have a quick read through and rip it to pieces.

Vince Foster worked for Rose Law Firm. What's your point? Politicians know more people than anyone on the plannet. That doesn't make it a conspiracy, it's the nature of the beast.

tr1414 · 09-05-05, 01:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Didga

The whole building reduced to nothing but this pile of smoking remains. Steel columns 100mm thick ripped apart, no large pieces of concrete, desks, nothing but small pieces of steel, dust and smoke coming up from underground. No combination of jet fuel fire and plane impact damage brought down the the WTC towers, explosives were used.

you can't be that stupid.... do you have any idea what over 20,000 gal. of jet fuel can do. You guys hate Bush so much you want to belive in ferry tails

Didga · 09-05-05, 05:55 AM

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Originally Posted by tr1414

you can't be that stupid.... do you have any idea what over 20,000 gal. of jet fuel can do. You guys hate Bush so much you want to belive in ferry tails

Jet fuel is a kerosine grade of fuel used in aircraft engines, kerosine is used in lamps and sometimes cooking. My grandfather used kerosine to burn off undergrowth at his farm. Steel is a metal alloy whose major component is iron. Steel is used to in buildings, engines, saucepans and good quality lamps. Steel often melts at around 1370 degrees C depending on the alloy used. To melt steel hydrocarbons like natural gas are forced onto the steel with oxygen in a blast furnace. The melting steel will glow red hot at 1000 degrees C.

Jet fuel did not melt the 47 steel central columns, neither did the impact of the planes weaken all 47 columns central columns. And both together also did not bring down the towers. For the towers feel at freefall. No resistance was offerred by all the central columns and floors below. The reason for this is because the floors below were taken out with detonations and massive exposions were used to carry this out. Why so large explosions when a more conventional size would do ? To make it appear not like a conventional demolition, to reduce the likelyhood of large chunks of the towers hitting neighbooring buildings and the reduce the size of the rubble for easy clean up/ covering up/ removal of the evidence. The collapse of WTC 7 was a smaller more conventional, bottom down demolition for contrast.

The problem is not how obvious 911 is a scam, its quite obviously a complete scam. Its realizing the fact that America has a corrupt cells within government, corrupt cells within the military, the CIA, the FBI and FEMA. The media is compromised and the university system is compromised. America is in fact so compromised by corruption that a fake terror attack like 911 can be pulled off with arrogance and the knowledge no serious consequences for the perpertators will result.

Trajan Octavian Titus · 09-05-05, 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Didga

Jet fuel is a kerosine grade of fuel used in aircraft engines, kerosine is used in lamps and sometimes cooking. My grandfather used kerosine to burn off undergrowth at his farm. Steel is a metal alloy whose major component is iron. Steel is used to in buildings, engines, saucepans and good quality lamps. Steel often melts at around 1370 degrees C depending on the alloy used. To melt steel hydrocarbons like natural gas are forced onto the steel with oxygen in a blast furnace. The melting steel will glow red hot at 1000 degrees C.

Jet fuel did not melt the 47 steel central columns, neither did the impact of the planes weaken all 47 columns central columns. And both together also did not bring down the towers. For the towers feel at freefall. No resistance was offerred by all the central columns and floors below. The reason for this is because the floors below were taken out with detonations and massive exposions were used to carry this out. Why so large explosions when a more conventional size would do ? To make it appear not like a conventional demolition, to reduce the likelyhood of large chunks of the towers hitting neighbooring buildings and the reduce the size of the rubble for easy clean up/ covering up/ removal of the evidence. The collapse of WTC 7 was a smaller more conventional, bottom down demolition for contrast.

The problem is not how obvious 911 is a scam, its quite obviously a complete scam. Its realizing the fact that America has a corrupt cells within government, corrupt cells within the military, the CIA, the FBI and FEMA. The media is compromised and the university system is compromised. America is in fact so compromised by corruption that a fake terror attack like 911 can be pulled off with arrogance and the knowledge no serious consequences for the perpertators will result.

Even the designer of the building has come out publicly against the conspiracy theorists, it's all a bunch of b.s., if you read the article I posted a link for a couple posts back, it dispells everyone or your conspiracy theories.

Stu Ghatze · 09-05-05, 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by naptowntruthseeker

I'll make sure to spell my words correctly and use commas, where needed. People love to be anal and shoot the messenger after all. There is no doubt in my mind 911 was an inside job, there is too much evidence. I did not come to think this was the case easily, I had to be dragged kicking and screaming. So anyways, Keep an open mind and check out the info for yourself.

http://martiallaw911.info/video.htm

http://www.infowars.com/resources.html Much of the info presented here implicates Clinton in just as much treason as Bush, so I don't want to hear the political football crap. I'm neither a republican or a democrat, just a truthseeker.

http://physics911.ca/

http://rainbowguide.info/LinkMaint/L...246cd40cce379f

Honest to God, ...is there no end to the conspiratorialist theories? Sure, ..why not just blame Bush & the admistration for 9/11, & planning to murder 3,000 americans!

I've got some news for you. IF there was any "real" evidence, ..the democrats would be licking their chops to not only have Bush impeached, but prosecuted for murder as well.

Anybody can have an open mind to "speculate" on anything, no matter how hackneyed, or "wishful" thinking one may hope it to be.

What else have the liberal democrats said, ...besides that Bush is a nazi, Bush endorses torture, Bush is racist, Bush hates the poor, Bush is a war monger, Bush lied about WMD's, Bush & Halliburton, & Halliburton & Bush,always that "assummed" link!

Not to overlok that poor poor mother who is grieving at the behest of the DNC AFTER they poisoned her mind. Why...its only fitting that she says the Bush murdered her son, ..but not the terrorist scum who did!

And lastly...the infamous military documents provided by "somebody" from the DNC that were supposed to indict Bush for not doing his duty in the air national guard that were supposed to be beyond reproach, ..later to be found to be a forged, fraudulent document; which of course was MEANT to influence the outcome of the presidential election!

I'm afraid you may have hitched your wagon to the rest of the nutcracker's whos only goal in life is to irrationaly hate, & despise Bush at all costs.

Didga · 09-05-05, 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Trajan Octavian Titus

if you read the article I posted a link for a couple posts back, it dispells everyone or your conspiracy theories.

This popular mechanics piece is easily debunked as propaganda rubbish in order to reaffirm your concensus reality. Please post the explanation to the collapse of WTC7 from popular mechanics so I can show you how thin the lies that hide the truth are.