September 11th conspiracy theories

tr1414 · 09-05-05, 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Didga

The whole building reduced to nothing but this pile of smoking remains. Steel columns 100mm thick ripped apart, no large pieces of concrete, desks, nothing but small pieces of steel, dust and smoke coming up from underground. No combination of jet fuel fire and plane impact damage brought down the the WTC towers, explosives were used.

you can't be that stupid.... do you have any idea what over 20,000 gal. of jet fuel can do. You guys hate Bush so much you want to belive in ferry tails

Didga · 09-05-05, 04:55 AM

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Originally Posted by tr1414

you can't be that stupid.... do you have any idea what over 20,000 gal. of jet fuel can do. You guys hate Bush so much you want to belive in ferry tails

Jet fuel is a kerosine grade of fuel used in aircraft engines, kerosine is used in lamps and sometimes cooking. My grandfather used kerosine to burn off undergrowth at his farm. Steel is a metal alloy whose major component is iron. Steel is used to in buildings, engines, saucepans and good quality lamps. Steel often melts at around 1370 degrees C depending on the alloy used. To melt steel hydrocarbons like natural gas are forced onto the steel with oxygen in a blast furnace. The melting steel will glow red hot at 1000 degrees C.

Jet fuel did not melt the 47 steel central columns, neither did the impact of the planes weaken all 47 columns central columns. And both together also did not bring down the towers. For the towers feel at freefall. No resistance was offerred by all the central columns and floors below. The reason for this is because the floors below were taken out with detonations and massive exposions were used to carry this out. Why so large explosions when a more conventional size would do ? To make it appear not like a conventional demolition, to reduce the likelyhood of large chunks of the towers hitting neighbooring buildings and the reduce the size of the rubble for easy clean up/ covering up/ removal of the evidence. The collapse of WTC 7 was a smaller more conventional, bottom down demolition for contrast.

The problem is not how obvious 911 is a scam, its quite obviously a complete scam. Its realizing the fact that America has a corrupt cells within government, corrupt cells within the military, the CIA, the FBI and FEMA. The media is compromised and the university system is compromised. America is in fact so compromised by corruption that a fake terror attack like 911 can be pulled off with arrogance and the knowledge no serious consequences for the perpertators will result.

Trajan Octavian Titus · 09-05-05, 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Didga

Jet fuel is a kerosine grade of fuel used in aircraft engines, kerosine is used in lamps and sometimes cooking. My grandfather used kerosine to burn off undergrowth at his farm. Steel is a metal alloy whose major component is iron. Steel is used to in buildings, engines, saucepans and good quality lamps. Steel often melts at around 1370 degrees C depending on the alloy used. To melt steel hydrocarbons like natural gas are forced onto the steel with oxygen in a blast furnace. The melting steel will glow red hot at 1000 degrees C.

Jet fuel did not melt the 47 steel central columns, neither did the impact of the planes weaken all 47 columns central columns. And both together also did not bring down the towers. For the towers feel at freefall. No resistance was offerred by all the central columns and floors below. The reason for this is because the floors below were taken out with detonations and massive exposions were used to carry this out. Why so large explosions when a more conventional size would do ? To make it appear not like a conventional demolition, to reduce the likelyhood of large chunks of the towers hitting neighbooring buildings and the reduce the size of the rubble for easy clean up/ covering up/ removal of the evidence. The collapse of WTC 7 was a smaller more conventional, bottom down demolition for contrast.

The problem is not how obvious 911 is a scam, its quite obviously a complete scam. Its realizing the fact that America has a corrupt cells within government, corrupt cells within the military, the CIA, the FBI and FEMA. The media is compromised and the university system is compromised. America is in fact so compromised by corruption that a fake terror attack like 911 can be pulled off with arrogance and the knowledge no serious consequences for the perpertators will result.

Even the designer of the building has come out publicly against the conspiracy theorists, it's all a bunch of b.s., if you read the article I posted a link for a couple posts back, it dispells everyone or your conspiracy theories.

Stu Ghatze · 09-05-05, 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by naptowntruthseeker

I'll make sure to spell my words correctly and use commas, where needed. People love to be anal and shoot the messenger after all. There is no doubt in my mind 911 was an inside job, there is too much evidence. I did not come to think this was the case easily, I had to be dragged kicking and screaming. So anyways, Keep an open mind and check out the info for yourself.

http://martiallaw911.info/video.htm

http://www.infowars.com/resources.html Much of the info presented here implicates Clinton in just as much treason as Bush, so I don't want to hear the political football crap. I'm neither a republican or a democrat, just a truthseeker.

http://physics911.ca/

http://rainbowguide.info/LinkMaint/L...246cd40cce379f

Honest to God, ...is there no end to the conspiratorialist theories? Sure, ..why not just blame Bush & the admistration for 9/11, & planning to murder 3,000 americans!

I've got some news for you. IF there was any "real" evidence, ..the democrats would be licking their chops to not only have Bush impeached, but prosecuted for murder as well.

Anybody can have an open mind to "speculate" on anything, no matter how hackneyed, or "wishful" thinking one may hope it to be.

What else have the liberal democrats said, ...besides that Bush is a nazi, Bush endorses torture, Bush is racist, Bush hates the poor, Bush is a war monger, Bush lied about WMD's, Bush & Halliburton, & Halliburton & Bush,always that "assummed" link!

Not to overlok that poor poor mother who is grieving at the behest of the DNC AFTER they poisoned her mind. Why...its only fitting that she says the Bush murdered her son, ..but not the terrorist scum who did!

And lastly...the infamous military documents provided by "somebody" from the DNC that were supposed to indict Bush for not doing his duty in the air national guard that were supposed to be beyond reproach, ..later to be found to be a forged, fraudulent document; which of course was MEANT to influence the outcome of the presidential election!

I'm afraid you may have hitched your wagon to the rest of the nutcracker's whos only goal in life is to irrationaly hate, & despise Bush at all costs.

Didga · 09-05-05, 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Trajan Octavian Titus

if you read the article I posted a link for a couple posts back, it dispells everyone or your conspiracy theories.

This popular mechanics piece is easily debunked as propaganda rubbish in order to reaffirm your concensus reality. Please post the explanation to the collapse of WTC7 from popular mechanics so I can show you how thin the lies that hide the truth are.

Didga · 09-05-05, 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Stu Ghatze

Honest to God, ...is there no end to the conspiratorialist theories? Sure, ..why not just blame Bush &amp; the admistration for 9/11, &amp; planning to murder 3,000 americans!

I've got some news for you. IF there was any "real" evidence, ..the democrats would be licking their chops to not only have Bush impeached, but prosecuted for murder as well.

I blame the CFR, Bush and corrupt elements of the US establishment for the murder of 3000 Americans and over 90 citizens of countries from all round the world. The real evidence is right in front of your eyes, 911 is a huge scam anyone can see it. The democrats are in it as well, the democrats are CFR controlled, very few real congressmen and women remain (try Congresswoman Cynthia McKinney). As I have said before, the problem is not seeing 911 as a scam, its believing its a scam. The evidence is clear and irrefutable that 911 was an inside job, most American's are in total denial at the level of corruption they are facing.

tr1414 · 09-05-05, 10:30 AM

My head is going to explode. How the hell do you guys function? Well, just make it back in time for bed check. UNREAL. No wonder the head-choppers think we are all weak, with assholes like you guys saying the STUPID BULL**** that your saying..... it's soo stupid it's funny. You morons are not worth responding to. You live in your own world. I guess the storm is Bush's fault too huh? By the way, just because you asswipes cite some far left wacko site or person does not make it true. I can't belive ANY sane person would belive what you Howard Dean want-to-be's belive. G-d bless you, you must be very troubled people.

Freiheits Kämpfer · 09-05-05, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Trajan Octavian Titus

Because the intense heat of the fire weakened the main support beems in the center of the building with catastrophic results. I suppose you're one of these people who believe that U.S. launched cruise missiles brought down the towers, tell me, did the illuminati make them do it, or maybe it was the elders of the protocals of zion?

All of the fuel on the plane was consumed in the crash. They obviously didn't weaken the supports very much considering it took a good hour for them to come down. And even so, it would have only weakened the top portion, not the bottom or middle. The top-which came down, but there is no way that that little bit could have brought down the entire building.

-FK

teacher · 09-06-05, 02:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Christopher Brooks

Many questions remain unanswered. The official story has already been proven a lie.

Damn Mr. Brooks. I leave for a couple of weeks and you try to slip back in with your weak bull****.

I ask you again Mr. Brooks. Find fault in my posts. You can't. You would have done so by now. Enjoy your freedom to dispel swill in my absence?

teacher · 09-06-05, 02:59 AM

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Originally Posted by nefarious_plot

See the cheap childish rebuttles to this really dont indicate that anybody knows the details of the event or have closely examined any evidence either supporting or refuting this claim.

And you do?

I've been away for a fortnight. I see we have some new players on this thread.

tr1414Thanks.

stu Ghatze and Trojan Octavian TitusI might be able to save you some time on this tread. It has all been covered allready.

Friehiets Kampher, Didga, Chris Morganti.
Let's settle this.

It's like this folks.

Here's the challange.

It apears not all have done their homework. teacher's upset. Ah well.

Go to post # 103 and start reading.

Find fault in my posts or stay off this thread with your weak, uneducated, unresearched, unqualified, weak ass bull****.

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Heres what I know.

Not much apparently.

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I know for a fact that the Goverment orginaly look over the possibilty of pre-postioned explosives that were denonated by a transponder signal.

I'm back now. Try explaining that like you were talking to an adult.

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They also looked at the idea that a bomb with the planes was detonated in conjuction with the crash. Thats all just that.

Classic.

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yelling concpiracy theory constantly doesnt disproove anyting. Its the same unthinking robotic responce ppeopel give to Criticism of Isreal. "Anti-semite" blah blah. ITs a clear indication you have no knowledge of the situation. Its not a put down. Its not a refutement. Its not even orginal. Its just lame.

Weak. Read my posts. Bring it.

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tr1414 Advisor Join Date: Jul 2005 Last Seen: 03-21-09 07:58 PM Location: Brooklyn, N.Y. Posts: 372 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Lean: Very Conservative Gender:	Re: 911 WAS an inside job. My head is going to explode. How the hell do you guys function? Well, just make it back in time for bed check. UNREAL. No wonder the head-choppers think we are all weak, with assholes like you guys saying the STUPID BULL**** that your saying..... it's soo stupid it's funny. You morons are not worth responding to. You live in your own world. I guess the storm is Bush's fault too huh? By the way, just because you asswipes cite some far left wacko site or person does not make it true. I can't belive ANY sane person would belive what you Howard Dean want-to-be's belive. G-d bless you, you must be very troubled people.
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