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For Immediate Release
Office of the Press Secretary
May 9, 2007
National Security and Homeland Security Presidential Directive


White House News

NATIONAL SECURITY PRESIDENTIAL DIRECTIVE/NSPD 51
HOMELAND SECURITY PRESIDENTIAL DIRECTIVE/HSPD-20
Subject: National Continuity Policy
Purpose
(1) This directive establishes a comprehensive national policy on the continuity of Federal Government structures and operations and a single National Continuity Coordinator responsible for coordinating the development and implementation of Federal continuity policies. This policy establishes "National Essential Functions," prescribes continuity requirements for all executive departments and agencies, and provides guidance for State, local, territorial, and tribal governments, and private sector organizations in order to ensure a comprehensive and integrated national continuity program that will enhance the credibility of our national security posture and enable a more rapid and effective response to and recovery from a national emergency.
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(2) In this directive:
(a) "Category" refers to the categories of executive departments and agencies listed in Annex A to this directive;
(b) "Catastrophic Emergency" means any incident, regardless of location, that results in extraordinary levels of mass casualties, damage, or disruption severely affecting the U.S. population, infrastructure, environment, economy, or government functions;
(c) "Continuity of Government," or "COG," means a coordinated effort within the Federal Government's executive branch to ensure that National Essential Functions continue to be performed during a Catastrophic Emergency;
(d) "Continuity of Operations," or "COOP," means an effort within individual executive departments and agencies to ensure that Primary Mission-Essential Functions continue to be performed during a wide range of emergencies, including localized acts of nature, accidents, and technological or attack-related emergencies;
(e) "Enduring Constitutional Government," or "ECG," means a cooperative effort among the executive, legislative, and judicial branches of the Federal Government, coordinated by the President, as a matter of comity with respect to the legislative and judicial branches and with proper respect for the constitutional separation of powers among the branches, to preserve the constitutional framework under which the Nation is governed and the capability of all three branches of government to execute constitutional responsibilities and provide for orderly succession, appropriate transition of leadership, and interoperability and support of the National Essential Functions during a catastrophic emergency;
(f) "Executive Departments and Agencies" means the executive departments enumerated in 5 U.S.C. 101, independent establishments as defined by 5 U.S.C. 104(1), Government corporations as defined by 5 U.S.C. 103(1), and the United States Postal Service;
(g) "Government Functions" means the collective functions of the heads of executive departments and agencies as defined by statute, regulation, presidential direction, or other legal authority, and the functions of the legislative and judicial branches;
(h) "National Essential Functions," or "NEFs," means that subset of Government Functions that are necessary to lead and sustain the Nation during a catastrophic emergency and that, therefore, must be supported through COOP and COG capabilities; and
(i) "Primary Mission Essential Functions," or "PMEFs," means those Government Functions that must be performed in order to support or implement the performance of NEFs before, during, and in the aftermath of an emergency

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Re: September 11th conspiracy theories

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But really man, you do know that there are other threads on this board right?... ones that are directly related to your posts even.
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Re: September 11th conspiracy theories

funny!

point made!

I still am attempting to tie in current issues into the motivation for a deeper conspiracy to 9/11...

I know too well the feelings of beating a dead horse...when ever I try to get any one to discuss news other than Paris Hilton, or the Soparanos!

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...I still am attempting to tie in current issues into the motivation for a deeper conspiracy to 9/11...
You can't even attempt to conjure up a "deeper" conspiracy when there isn't even a shallow one to begin with. There is not a single point made by any of the different conspiracy sites that can't and/or hasn't been debunked.

So, without telling me to buy Alex Jones' new book, what evidence is there that says anyone other than some pissed off extremists did the whole thing?
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riiightt...

I still have to outline all this stuff I presented,

Still, if no one wants to consider the possibilites it is like you said, beating a dead horse. So, I will find some who are still kicking.

who is Alex Jones???

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Have you heard about the 9/11 Pyramid Commission?

They are scheduling Senate hearings to determine if any un-documented jihadist's were used at anytime during pyramid construction!

http://www.debatepolitics.com/571916-post546.html (How to build a Pyramid.)
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Hello teacher!
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I refer to this interview again, because under the security company ran by Marvin Bush whose contract ended 9/10 coincidentally or not, the building power was cut off on occasions previous to 9-11 when workmen were in and out of the building. On these occasions the detonators could have been already put into place.
I work for myself, security is one of the things I do. And I wrote about all this allready. Glad to see you miss where I explain ALL about buildings and wires and toys and such.

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One arguement here is that there had to be a lowere level explosions to implode the buildings, and the last reference I put here;

YouTube - 9/11: Total Proof That Bombs Were Planted In The Buildings!

are newcasts of such lower level explosions.

There is a new book out Debunking 9/11 Debunking by David Griffin for any one who really thinks that truth is worth investigation.
I've beat down him and all his stuff.

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I am not certain how it was all pulled off, but I do think a real investigation needs to be done, I think we owe it to the lives lost and what we stand to lose.
Listen, if you care so friggin much, get me up against these goons, any time, any where, I go in cold against as many of them as you want.

Then, when I leave them stuttering and calling for their mommies, then will you shut the hell up?

I notice you STILL have nuttin to say about MY explanation.

Cuase it's right, you are pushing a tin foil hat wearing agenda that is friggin bull****, or you are plain friggin stupid.

This has been put to bed long ago.

When I stopped writing about it.

But you know what, linz?

My time is not too far off now.

See, linz, I'm the friggin smartest man alive, and I'm proving it. And when I decide it's time, I'm gonna be out there, and this is one of the things I'm gonna take on. Conpriracy nuts, dirt-sifters, astropyhisists, liberal, Bill Mahre, I'm gonna be tossing bodies around. And it's gonna be a blast for me to do and the kids to watch.

Go find a mistake, on any of my stuff, go find more play, funnier stuff what ever, and you bring this weak to me?

Please. Now go drink your koolaid.

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IBlinzsaysomgtherewasnofire.
That's friggin hilarious.

You know bro, if I weren't so busy and impotent I'd drive this one off like all the others before her. For now it's just a nice place to let off some steam.

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We have to acknowledge that the 9-11 tragedy is the result of a conspiracy, ...
No, we don't.

What YOU have to acknowledge, and what everyone else knows, is you can't counter anything I say while I kick your teeth in at every turn, then you whistle in the dark away like nuttin happened and start the same tired bull**** over again.

Now I want a fu*king answer.

What is your agenda?

Just come out and say it cause you ain't folling no one.

Are you anti-semite, trying to drawn blame away from the stupid Arabs cause that bolsters the just cause of the Jews?

Are you a simple CiCoW.boy hater bent on getting other to hate him like you do and you will resort to lies to acomplish your silly goal?

You're just a moron?

Your parents were circus stilt walkers with cement floors with the penchant for greasy foods when you where a baby?

Well?

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Predicting that Iran will obtain a nuclear weapon within three years and claiming to have a strike plan in place, senior American military officers have told The Jerusalem Post they support President George W. Bush's stance to do everything necessary to stop the Islamic Republic's race for nuclear power.

Bush has repeatedly said the United States would not allow Iran to "go nuclear."


Israel successfully launches Ofek 7 spy satellite
Bla, bla bla.

Okay, you're a anti-semite. You're Muslim. At the least pro their cause of killing all the Jews. Like several before you on this thread. They also couldn't answer the questions.

Like I said, linz, I'm busy, I'm at "The Next Level" right now. Soon will come "Eve of teacher". After that is "Ultimate teacher" and with that comes the BIG theory..."Done". And that is gonna come straight at you and your ilk.

"Done" sorry to say kids, is not for here. "Done" will be for me.

I've been giving far too much away for far too long for free.

But that helps to establish my credibility.


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I know too well the feelings of beating a dead horse...when ever I try to get any one to discuss news other than Paris Hilton, or the Soparanos!thanks!

You don't know Jack sh**t, or how to go about getting anything done.

You're first big mistake is being wrong. When you are wrong no one reads.

When you are right, you're me, The Warden teacher, of the colossal brain, may I live and rule forever and ever, Amen.
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For Immediate Release
Office of the Press Secretary
May 9, 2007
National Security and Homeland Security Presidential Directive


White House News

NATIONAL SECURITY PRESIDENTIAL DIRECTIVE/NSPD 51
HOMELAND SECURITY PRESIDENTIAL DIRECTIVE/HSPD-20
Subject: National Continuity Policy
Purpose
(1) This directive establishes a comprehensive national policy on the continuity of Federal Government structures and operations and a single National Continuity Coordinator responsible for coordinating the development and implementation of Federal continuity policies. This policy establishes "National Essential Functions," prescribes continuity requirements for all executive departments and agencies, and provides guidance for State, local, territorial, and tribal governments, and private sector organizations in order to ensure a comprehensive and integrated national continuity program that will enhance the credibility of our national security posture and enable a more rapid and effective response to and recovery from a national emergency.
Definitions
(2) In this directive:
(a) "Category" refers to the categories of executive departments and agencies listed in Annex A to this directive;
(b) "Catastrophic Emergency" means any incident, regardless of location, that results in extraordinary levels of mass casualties, damage, or disruption severely affecting the U.S. population, infrastructure, environment, economy, or government functions;
(c) "Continuity of Government," or "COG," means a coordinated effort within the Federal Government's executive branch to ensure that National Essential Functions continue to be performed during a Catastrophic Emergency;
(d) "Continuity of Operations," or "COOP," means an effort within individual executive departments and agencies to ensure that Primary Mission-Essential Functions continue to be performed during a wide range of emergencies, including localized acts of nature, accidents, and technological or attack-related emergencies;
(e) "Enduring Constitutional Government," or "ECG," means a cooperative effort among the executive, legislative, and judicial branches of the Federal Government, coordinated by the President, as a matter of comity with respect to the legislative and judicial branches and with proper respect for the constitutional separation of powers among the branches, to preserve the constitutional framework under which the Nation is governed and the capability of all three branches of government to execute constitutional responsibilities and provide for orderly succession, appropriate transition of leadership, and interoperability and support of the National Essential Functions during a catastrophic emergency;
(f) "Executive Departments and Agencies" means the executive departments enumerated in 5 U.S.C. 101, independent establishments as defined by 5 U.S.C. 104(1), Government corporations as defined by 5 U.S.C. 103(1), and the United States Postal Service;
(g) "Government Functions" means the collective functions of the heads of executive departments and agencies as defined by statute, regulation, presidential direction, or other legal authority, and the functions of the legislative and judicial branches;
(h) "National Essential Functions," or "NEFs," means that subset of Government Functions that are necessary to lead and sustain the Nation during a catastrophic emergency and that, therefore, must be supported through COOP and COG capabilities; and
(i) "Primary Mission Essential Functions," or "PMEFs," means those Government Functions that must be performed in order to support or implement the performance of NEFs before, during, and in the aftermath of an emergency

National Security and Homeland Security Presidential Directive

How does this explain anything?
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How does this explain anything?
It don't explain a damn thing.

But that's not the point to begin with.

Lemme explain.

While I can't prove it, I'm as convinced as can be without proof that there are some that are on the internet some to sow doubt, create strife, cause dissention in the ranks, in Americans on the so-called war on terror. So-called cause I say the term "war" implies that the outcome is uncertain. That the winner could be either side. not so in this case. I'd rather see this campaign called "The spanking of stupid Arabs".

Disinformation, propagannda, counterintelligence, all tricks of the old school trade of war. Even the stupid Arabs have PC's, and I think they use them. After all, if they can convince even a few idiot Americans that the stupid Arabs didn't fly those planes into the WTC, then have those idiot Americans go among the unwashed masses and cast thier doubts, media picks up on it, more people believe cause others believe, and hey, sheep will follow. Them along with the stupid Arabs themselves just go out there and do the good ol' "if you say it loud enough and often enough, many will believe", deal. Another thing the sheep fall for is links. give a link and it must be so. Lemme illustrate.

I, teacher, of the colossal brain, may I live and rule forever and ever Amen, claim the moon is made of green cheese.

The proof is here...

nocapsorspaces -> New Facts.

There ya go. Proof for morons.

I think that is linz's game.

I mean you know this works, look at our political arena. A common, oft used ploy, you should accept and expect this. It will help you deal with your world and the people around you.

The internet is the perfect tool for this tactic. Look at the numbers you can reach for free, keep casting the net and a few are bound to get caught. So you plant the seed of doubt, which grows to the morons it can work on, and all of a sudden you have some real numbers. Numbers CAN affect political policy. I'm damn sure all the democrates don't believe when they say the war is lost and all that swill, but it gets votes and there ya go.

Don't confuse these folks with the garden varitety tin foil hat wearers...



You know the type, Bigfoot, Lockness, Elvis on the mothership using voodoo to build the pyramids...

http://www.debatepolitics.com/scienc...d-pyramid.html

this is the enemy. Think about it, it would be stupid for the enemy NOT to use this tactic. America does the same thing, only we tell the truth. Little things like "you deserve to be free and in control of your own future, free the women".

There is precedent on this. Here in this thread. A certain player whom I ran off long ago called Christopher Brooks. You can tell the foil hatters from the enemy cause the foil hatters stick to the "freefall in 7 seconds" and " look at the squib" and "the fire wasn't hot enough to melt steel" and " no steel building has ever collapsed before" over and over and they keep givng the same links no matter how many times I debunk that trash.

The enemy can't help it, sooner or later they get to the Jews. Now, they keep showing up in this thread from time to time, but they get better, their story more streamlined and less chaotic. Linz here is just the next step up. Not sure what really clued my into this at first, I guess it was when I stopped thinking how to destroy my opponent and started asking myself why do they keep on even after I've laid out a flawless description of how the towers fell and shot thier ideas full of holes. To keep on means that there is an agenda behind it. Which begged the question what is the agenda...bla bla bla. Make sence?

So with Mr. Brooks I started in on questioning his claim of being an American. He sent a so-called family picture. Any one can do that. I feel the fact he did bolstered my thinking he was the enemy. Then I started in on simple American questions.

How many licks does it take to get to the center of a Tootsie Pop?

You get your kicks on what route?

Please don't squeeze the _______.

Micheal Jordon was the center for which basketball team? (yea, trick question).

He couldn't answer one of them.

Went so far as to say he WOULDN"T answer them.

Busted.

Now, some things have led me to believe that our nation that is led by old, smart, rich white men know full well this tactic and have a crew of good guys combating this thing. But I'm a patriot and you don't get that train of logic.

Now if the enemy has ANY friggin brains they'll send someone this time that will do a little better against me.

Like I said, I can't prove this, and I may well be wrong about the players, but the logic behind the idea is solid, and i'll dance with it.

Couple of posts ago I said I was too busy now to really get onto linz, to get into her skull and find out what's the deal, but I'm gonna make time.

That is if I hadn't allready blown it open and she flees forever and ever, Amen.

Notice served.

This IS the next level.
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There's absolutely no basis for the "the buildings were demolished with explosives" argument. The planes hit the building, the steel bowed and eventually failed due to the incredible amount of weight and heat, and it caused subsequent floors to collapse.
1. The melting point of steel is 2,500-2,750 degrees Fahrenheit. For steel to to become malleable requires exposure to temperatures approaching 2,000 degrees Fahrenheit. Yet, only 3 out of 170 perimeter and core columns retrieved from the site had been exposed to temperatures above 482 degrees Fahrenheit. We're expected to believe that the towers collapsed after the columns from the core and perimeter became too malleable at temperatures over 1,500 degrees LOWER than their malleability point. I don't buy it and neither should you.

2. FEMA's metallurgical analysis of those 3 samples revealed that a "liquid euctectic mixture containing primarily iron, oxygen, and sulfur" began severely corroding the steel at approximately 1,800 degrees Fahrenheit. In some cases, eating large holes into it. The source of the large quantities of sulfur have yet to be identified, FEMA was not permitted to retrieve anymore samples for testing, and it's requested investigation into the source of the mixture and, specifically, the sulfur was and continues to be ignored. Even if that mixture alone didn't cause the collapse, it certainly accelerated it.

3. Witnesses, including office workers and firemen that were inside the towers, reported hearing and/or seeing primary and secondary explosions. Specifically, in the basement, lobby, and lower floors. Video footage in the lobby confirms that an explosion did take place at least there and most of these have been attributed to jet fuel. William Rodriguez, Phillip Morelli, Mike Pecoraro, Felipe David, Salvatore Giambanco, and Jose Sanchez, all of whom worked in the basement of the WTC, reported hearing, feeling, and seeing the effects of a large explosion in the basement BEFORE Flight 11 struck the North Tower. No investigation into the cause of these explosions has ever been conducted nor were they mentioned or considered as factors in the collapse of the buildings despite the testimony of Mr. Rodriguez to the 9/11 Commission.

4. Nearly every simulation compiled by those supporting the conclusions of the government required that the planes remain largely intact, that they collided with the core, and that the core and perimeter columns be exposed to extreme heat in excess of what they were actually exposed to. This despite the fact that the whole damn world saw the planes blow apart almost immediately upon impact on national and international television and even though chunks of the planes were scattered all over lower Manhattan! Much of the damage to the core was attributed to the "intact steel engines". Tell me, how did the "intact steel engines" make it unscathed all the way to the core then end up three blocks away in the opposite direction on the corner of Church and Murray Street before the collapse?

All of the evidence points to a coordinated attack from both the ground and the air.
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