Bill O'Reilly and Sean Hannitty are awesome news reporter - Page 5

1SGRet · 06-19-05, 10:37 AM

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Honestly, the blind right says he is on your side as well, my statement stands.

. I know I'm amazing, but thanks for pointing it out

. Seriously though, Zel is a Truman Democrat, he has many a time said he wants the party to return to it's previous values and regrets what it has become, he has also refused Republican invitations to the party respectfully as he wants tradition to be restored to his party, Zel is, in fact, the ultimate Democrat along with Joe Lieberman. Also, did you miss his speech at the '92 convention praising Clinton, the party left him, he didn't leave the party.

Hannity is fair in that he doesn't hide his conservatism, he is fair in that he gives you his opinion on the news and qualifies it as that, he is even fair in that he invites plenty of liberals on the show to defend their views. I think he's biased but fair.

Never said that, I said they are editorialists which is by it's nature supposed to be biased news, it is news commentary,not reporting and people should not rely on just them to get their information, just like people can no longer simply trust one source for news, it's sad really, but true.

Case might be made for O'Reilly, and in his aging years, Rush. Hannity is just rabid. Two minutes of listening will impart that knowledge. Occasionally, a liberal will find his/her way onto the radio program. They are carefully controlled interviews. Sean wins because he sets it up. After he gets the opponent pissed, it's Mr. Reasonable. Try Michael Medved if you want intelligent conservatism.

Al Franken is sort of avancular, and sometimes so laid back, I fall asleep. My favorite, con or lib is G. Gordon Libby. He out Ollies Ollie. The poor old Zell just wants to duel. He makes as much sense as Strom Thurman did in his latter years. (Both former Democrats - yes, I know, Zell is a nominal Democrat, but he is also a nominal Alzheimer's.) (Unfair poke - ainkkk.)

Fu_chick · 06-19-05, 10:52 AM

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"NOT"A lot you know if you think Bill Reilly or Sean Hannitty are news reporters they are not they are news commentators their is a huge difference.

I hate to hurt your little bittie feelings, I hope I didn't burst your bubble I know a lot of you think Bill & Sean are gods you think, they walk on water ,

They are just like talk show host on the radio a bunch of hot air nothing more

I willing to bet most of Bill & Sean's and fox die hard's never listen to the news ...........This is why it is so easy for FOX to brain wash a lot of you telling you they are fair and balanced "YA RIGHT"

Um, duh. It's pretty obvious that these guys, like Rush are conservative commentators. I've heard Sean say that himself (I don't know about Bill, I try to avoid listening to him if I can at all help it). Sometimes I agree with Sean, often I don't, but I do not rely on him for news, and I highly doubt that any half-way intelligent person would.

LaMidRighter · 06-19-05, 08:29 PM

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Case might be made for O'Reilly, and in his aging years, Rush. Hannity is just rabid. Two minutes of listening will impart that knowledge. Occasionally, a liberal will find his/her way onto the radio program. They are carefully controlled interviews. Sean wins because he sets it up. After he gets the opponent pissed, it's Mr. Reasonable. Try Michael Medved if you want intelligent conservatism.

Sean is passionate about his views, no doubt, I think he'll mellow out a bit as he gains experience, either that or the Irish and New Yorker tendancies will intensify, either way, it will be fun to see.

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Al Franken is sort of avancular, and sometimes so laid back, I fall asleep.

This is funny, when he is in control you are absolutely right, but when he starts to lose an argument it gets pretty funny, he just mentally derails and starts to lose it.

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My favorite, con or lib is G. Gordon Libby. He out Ollies Ollie.

Liddy is pretty cool, but it's hard to find his show here, I only get snippets here and there.

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The poor old Zell just wants to duel. He makes as much sense as Strom Thurman did in his latter years. (Both former Democrats - yes, I know, Zell is a nominal Democrat, but he is also a nominal Alzheimer's.) (Unfair poke - ainkkk.)

Funny stuff, but I see in Zel Miller and Joe Lieberman the same kind of Democrats that Truman and JFK represented, Zel is ornery to be sure, but I think it comes from a passionate love of his country and I guess it would seem his proper political affilitation is up to individual opinion.

26 X World Champs · 06-19-05, 08:42 PM

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Funny stuff, but I see in Zel Miller and Joe Lieberman the same kind of Democrats that Truman and JFK represented, Zel is ornery to be sure, but I think it comes from a passionate love of his country and I guess it would seem his proper political affilitation is up to individual opinion.

I think it's more than safe to say that neither HST or JFK would have ever made a convention speech at a Republican convention? You really think a Kennedy would turn his back on the Democratic party?

Zell Miller spoke his mind for sure. It's just that some of us question his sanity....

LaMidRighter · 06-19-05, 08:51 PM

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I think it's more than safe to say that neither HST or JFK would have ever made a convention speech at a Republican convention? You really think a Kennedy would turn his back on the Democratic party?

Zell Miller spoke his mind for sure. It's just that some of us question his sanity....

I don't know if that would have been an issue if that make of Democrat still existed Champ, truth be told. JFK and HST were phenomenal examples of the principles for which the Democrats once stood, and also, I would probably have voted for Kennedy or Truman with zero qualms. The old Republican party was waaaay too conservative, back in the day, the Dems were the perfect balance of conservative ideals and laws with compassion(FDR is a different story, but we'll leave that alone). I see this in Lieberman and Miller as well, but hey, to each his own.

p.s. The cub streak at Yankee stadium stands. :smile:

26 X World Champs · 06-19-05, 08:58 PM

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p.s. The cub streak at Yankee stadium stands. :smile:

The Cubs have NEVER won a game in Yankee Stadium....

Pacridge · 06-19-05, 09:04 PM

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The Cubs have NEVER won a game in Yankee Stadium....

Maybe he means streak of losses?

26 X World Champs · 06-19-05, 09:06 PM

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Maybe he means streak of losses?

I was reaffirming what he wrote, he knew that the Cubs are now 0-7 lifetime at Yankee Stadium...

alienken · 06-19-05, 10:00 PM

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ISean Hannitty is full tilt boogie conservative on his radio shows. Never has a Dem done anything right, or Bush or his supporters - wrong. He's a bit less harsh on TV, with Colmes to mitigate his viciousness."

Hannity? Viciousness? he is the nicest guy in the business. Have you ever listened to his radio show? The only time he is a jerk to people is when they start it. He defends himself and fire back. Besides look who is talking. You can't disagree with anyone without calling them a name.

SouthernDemocrat · 06-29-05, 08:51 AM

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I don't know if that would have been an issue if that make of Democrat still existed Champ, truth be told. JFK and HST were phenomenal examples of the principles for which the Democrats once stood, and also, I would probably have voted for Kennedy or Truman with zero qualms. The old Republican party was waaaay too conservative, back in the day, the Dems were the perfect balance of conservative ideals and laws with compassion(FDR is a different story, but we'll leave that alone). I see this in Lieberman and Miller as well, but hey, to each his own.

p.s. The cub streak at Yankee stadium stands. :smile:

What history books do you guys on the right read? Democrats back in the days of Truman and Kennedy were far more economically liberal back then than they are today. You’re telling me that as a conservative, you would have supported Truman’s Fair Deal? The difference between Democrats today and Democrats 40 to 50 years ago is that today they are more socially liberal. However, economics and domestic policy wise, back then they were a lot more liberal than they are today. The top tax rate during the 50s was 91%, the top tax rate during the Kennedy years was 70% (the reason Kennedy dropped it was not ideological, but rather because his economists told him that the government was running the risk of hoarding money from the economy and he still left it at 70%). You would have supported Kennedy and a 70% tax rate for the top bracket? Johnson’s Great Society was all JFK ideals that he was already pushing for prior to being assassinated. You would have been a supporter of the Great Society?

Republicans on the other hand are more conservative today than they have ever been. Forty years ago, Barry Goldwater represented the far right of the Republican Party. Today, he would at best be a Moderate Republican.