Bill O'Reilly and Sean Hannitty are awesome news reporter - Page 3

Squawker · 04-24-05, 09:07 PM

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True. They do have liberals/democrats in some of their programming. But they are much fewer in number and are less likely to stand up for their points. Basically, weak liberals are brought on to represent that side. For instance, look at Alan Colmes. He's treated like Hannity's pet liberal...merely a token on that show.

Geraldo, Greta Van Sustern, Bob Beckel, John Podesta, and Lanny Davis are just a few of the Democrats that are featured on Fox. None of them are weak in the knees. The Fairness and Accuracy in Reporting study was done for the movie outfoxed. Not all programming is open to debate. The ones that are, have a balance of views.

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Squawker, most of the Fox viewers I know watch the channel because of the fact that it supports their conservative view. The fact that conservatives consistently tune in to and defend the Fox News network should tell you something about its "conservativeness". It's yours, own it, embrace it.

lol I watch it because I only have to listen to liberals whine 50 percent of the time vs 100 percent of the time. I like the format and informality of Fox. They have fun and aren't into the gloom and doom of the liberal channels. Try it, you might learn something.

KansasMeg · 04-24-05, 09:13 PM

And, once again, I ask you...where are the numbers to prove that Fox News is indeed "fair and balanced". To make such a claim as that gives the channel the burden of proof. You'd think Fox would want to proudly display numbers that back this up. Naming off a few of the Dems represented on Fox does nothing to back up this claim. I have already stated that Fox does indeed include dems/libs in their programming. That's not the issue.

By the way, what are these liberal news channels of gloom and doom you mention? Can you name off a few? Maybe you see these programs as downers or boring because they simply state the new without fluff and spin.

Squawker · 04-24-05, 09:21 PM

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"Fair and Balanced" would be a consistent equal amount of time spent on all political sides or stating the news of the day without spin.

How would you suggest I prove that to your satisfaction? Both sides spin equally and both sides have a voice on Fox. What more is required?

KansasMeg · 04-24-05, 09:27 PM

Numbers would be a good start.

KansasMeg · 04-24-05, 09:40 PM

BTW, shouldn't this thread be under Bias in the Media?

ShamMol · 04-24-05, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Squawker

That seems to be an unreasonable goal for a media outlet, but how would you know Fox doesn't do that if you are not watching every hour, and taking notes of who is interviewed. The people who are questioned during the shows I have seen are usually just labeled as Rebublican or Democrat. They could be conservatives, moderates, or liberals, but that isn't pointed out. There is some programming that is just news, without commentary.

unreasonable-probably. But that is what fair and balanced truely is. I watch Fox quite a lot for reasons that escape me. They are labeled as such and that creates an automatic divide on any station that does not foster any sort of conversation. My idea is the only true way to get a fair and balanced coversation, whether it be reasonable or not. There is programming everywhere that is just news-and that is what i tend to listen to/watch/read so that I can make an informed decision. Once they start talking outside the script-it ain't news.

Squawker · 04-25-05, 04:45 PM

The left has driven this campaign about Fox, so people won’t listen to them. It worked for the die hard lefties, but the Republicans figured if the left hated it, Fox was doing something right. I don't look to the TV to give me "hard News" but I do like to hear what the other sides have to say about the issues. CNN is a liberal, boring, gloom and doom channel. Just for your information, this is what Brian Wilson had to say about Outfoxed.

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by Brian Wilson
You may have noticed that your friends at the FOX News Channel have been under attack of late. To hear some tell it, we are the personification of evil, a blight on society and may even be responsible for a worldwide epidemic of plantar warts.
The most prominent of the recent attacks has been in the form of the film, Outfoxed, which is backed by the ultra-liberal political action group MoveOn.org. Allow me to speak frankly — this alleged documentary is in fact a third-rate hack-job, full of clips pulled out of context, edited in such a way as to cast FOX News in the worst possible light. Don't take my word for it; read from a recent article in the Washington Post:
"...some of the editing in the movie is questionable. In a montage involving criticism of Kerry's tax policies, political correspondent Carl Cameron is shown saying: 'If you want to destroy jobs in this country, you raise taxes.' Left on the cutting-room floor is that Cameron was quoting Commerce Secretary Don Evans."
That assessment comes from none other than Washington Post media critic Howard Kurtz, a guy who works for CNN in his spare time.
So desperate were the producers of the film to smear FOX News that they sought out interviews with an odd collection of miscreants and disgruntled former employees who appear on camera to trash us. Two of those interviewed NEVER EVEN WORKED FOR THE FOX NEWS CHANNEL.
Take for example, an interview with Frank O'Donnell. I worked alongside Frank at FOX affiliate WTTG in the late 80's. He left after a series of disagreements with the news director at the time and his parting shot was an article trashing our award-winning newsroom in a regional magazine. Today he is the politically active leader of a left-leaning environmental organization (something you will not find mentioned in the documentary). Frank has never worked for this news organization and left the employ of WTTG roughly a decade before FOX News Channel even existed.
That, my friends, is how desperate the producers of this film were to find people willing to say bad things about FOX News.
One wonders why the MoveOn.org people are so up in arms about our little 'ol news organization? Could it be that they fear a news organization that allows all voices to join in public discourse? Could it be they do not want you to have access to a fair and balanced debate of the great issues of our day? Could it be that they hope to maintain a stranglehold on the mainstream press that many Americans already see as left-leaning?
Take a look at the bigger picture and you can see this is an attempt to discredit, muzzle and, perhaps, intimidate a news organization during an election year.
Look! Here's the bottom-line: I have been reporting for this news organization for 6 years. I have never been asked to pull a punch or slant a story. I have never been told how to go about my reporting. I have never been hammered by the bosses for a story they did not like. All I have been asked to do is give all sides of an issue the opportunity to be heard.

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ShamMol · 04-25-05, 10:09 PM

I never saw Outfoxed and now think I will have to rent it, lol if it drew such a sharp criticism from Fox (just kiddin man).

If you don't watch TV for actual news-Fox is your station, CNN is your station, it sure isn't the actual news. That is what radio stations that do all news and no commentary, or NPR from 6:30-8:30. That is what news is. Not this perverted crap from these news channels-though I do sometimes what Bill over at MSNBC for a laugh-but that isn't serious news (ditto for Oreilly, great comedy especially when he dealt with the Hamilton College thing-great stuff really).

steve6871 · 05-06-05, 09:08 PM

I don't really care about the discussion about whether Bill O'Reily is a reporter, correspondent, or what. I can tell you that he is the most arrogant, condescending jack-ass in the media. He has no audience because he has a habit of offending everyone, and inviting intellectually inferior morons that he knows he can out-talk to make himself look good, (so he believes).

stsburns · 05-08-05, 03:01 AM

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There are slanted reports in the media on both the left and right obviously.

So how many lefts and rights are we talkin?

Lets see the lefts,
CNN, CBS, 1/2 NBC, MTV news +4

The rights,
Fox News, 1/2 NBC +2

The Best Neutral coverage (in my opinion):

MSNBC (Cause Microsoft could careless)

CSPAN (You got 2 mins. after that, you get cut off)